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6/12/12 at 7:33am
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They know something. There is not much market there and not much demand. They want to sell Millions not just some units.
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6/12/12 at 7:34am
Except for audio and video professionals and rich fellows who don't like fizzing much around with there hardware, Mac is the preferred hardware.

I'm not saying i totally hate Apple. I just hate the fact that they are using sweat shops in china(aka foxconn plants) and making the hardware cheap and selling it for exorbitant prices.

Get the prices to something real then maybe ill buy em.

But why would they when they got millions of morons jumping on iphones and imacs as soon as a crappy new update comes in. Apple is only of the largest corporations because it is ripping off everyone.
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6/12/12 at 7:36am
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I just configured a Dell Precision T3500 and compared it against the Mac Pro. The Dell came to $21,54 with a quad-core W3565 3.2GHz, 1 TB HDD and 6GB ECC 1333MHz RAM, which is $350 less than the Mac Pro. Dell's charging $1320 to upgrade from 6GB RAM to 24GB of RAM whereas Apple is charging $975 to go to 32GB. Dell's charging $290 for a 1 TB HDD and Apple's charging $300. Apple's charging $500 to upgrade the CPU to a 3.33GHz six-core and Dell's charging $390 for a 3.2GHz six-core or $1220 for a 3.46GHz six-core.

Dell being a blatant rip off doesn't mean Apple is not.

Anyway, even if you need a pre-built, or even a Mac, it's always in your best interest to include as little memory or storage as possible, then add what you need yourself. It's 15-30 minutes of work that will save you upwards of a thousand dollars.
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The thing is I have more industry and technical experience that a lot of people on this forum. Also, some of my good friends are fantastic engineers and highly experienced in the IT world. They use Macs, too.

They could still get more for less if they bought something else. Everyone has their tastes though, and most will sacrifice value to fulfill that preference.

I like Fifth Avenue bars, and even though they cost three cents more at the corner store, for 10% less mass/calories, I still buy them over Butterfingers.
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6/12/12 at 8:22am
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I don't follow Apple very closely, but isn't it unusual for them to not be using latest hardware in newly released products? Either way, a pair of 6-core Westmeres would be no slouch for the type of application this machine would be used for.
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They could still get more for less if they bought something else. Everyone has their tastes though, and most will sacrifice value to fulfill that preference.

Value can, at times, be subjective too though, depending on what a specific potential buyer's needs and wants are. I suppose that's generally speaking though which may or may not be on topic with your point here.
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6/12/12 at 9:13am
Come on Apple, I know these aren't as popular as the iPod, Macbook, etc but refresh it still! Mac Pro remains the only Mac I'd ever get, prices are decent (When they're newly refreshed) and the OS is far superior to Windows.
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6/12/12 at 9:18am
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I'm not saying i totally hate Apple. I just hate the fact that they are using sweat shops in china(aka foxconn plants) and making the hardware cheap and selling it for exorbitant prices.
Please. What electronic company DOESN'T use Foxconn? Apple is at least one of the better ones that use Foxconn.

Every company out there makes their parts for cheap and sells for exorbitant prices. Otherwise you'd see 680's for $50 and Rampage Extremes for $30.
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6/12/12 at 9:34am
We don't need a foxconn debate here... please stay on topic.

Also; insults, and rude posts will not be tolerated.
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6/12/12 at 9:43am
I have a MacBook Pro, iPad 2, and iPhone 4S along with my gaming computer and an ASUS Transformer so i'm not biased. A 5770 in a dual socket workstation priced that high? They should be arrested for offering that to people at that price. They should at least offer driver support for the new 7XXX series. I think they are preparing to kill the workstation.
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Come on Apple, I know these aren't as popular as the iPod, Macbook, etc but refresh it still! Mac Pro remains the only Mac I'd ever get, prices are decent (When they're newly refreshed) and the OS is far superior to Windows.

$300 for a 5770 is a decent price? blinksmiley.gif

How they get away with charging $150 for 2x2GB DIMMs in 2012 is beyond me.

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I personally find Premier and After Effects to be a superior video editing solution anyway. No major loss it seems.

sadly you have no idea what is out there then frown.gif


https://www.avid.com/US/


That is what any real Pro or anyone who really makes good movies uses... LOL

Man these sub par programs out there ... I use VLC editor and it does 85% what i need and if it does not then i can export over to something that does but that is like 1 out of 5 projects for fun!!!
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