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Originally Posted by
Vidia-King 
k.

smh...
A smart consumer retailer (NewEgg) only "referbs" and re-releases gently pre-owned hardware and hardware with known solvable problems / issues. Anyways nowadays HDDs & SDDs are merely scrubbed for user sensitive material on pre-owned / refurbished hardware. Because of the recent advancements in software regarding data deletion, duplication and recovery, their is no need for manufactures to completely wipe out the OS or use an entirely new drive, its too timely and not cost effective. Your old windows product key is often the new owners product key on a lot of today's pre-owned and refurbished products. They simply recycle them, all of the original product key's owner information is removed form the key and when you register your product yours is added. The only way I know this is because I worked for a local PC Warehouse for 2 years when I was fresh out of school, myself and one other individual headed the referb department.
Shake your head to this Vidia-King:
I hope that if you ever have a business of your own, that you will realise that customer satisfaction and being reasonable go hand in hand. Companies that decide to cling on to grey areas in their RMA rules to deny a customer to return faulty equipment just because they exercised the freedom to install software, are doing bad business and shooting themselves in the foot. That is what I said in my post, and I reiterate it.
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Originally Posted by
Maian 
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Update, 7:14 PM: Newegg contacted Norma after we published this story, and her RMA is now going through. They'll be issuing her refund. She updated us:
"I spoke with a "Public Image Professional" from Newegg who contacted me via email regarding my RMA. She immediately offered to replace the laptop or process a full refund, and I accepted the latter given all the issues I've had with them. I received an RMA confirmation telling me that it has been approved as a defective product return, and that I will receive a credit in 3-5 business days."
Problem solved.
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Originally Posted by
gsa700 
It's good that they have resolved this for Norma, but I think something got lost in the debate here. Unless I missed it, at no time was her "warranty" in jeopardy. It was only Newegg refusing her RMA because the laptop wasn't in the same condition she had received it in.
Most likely, Norma could have contacted Lenovo and received service directly from them on this issue.
It's not that I am on Neweggs "side", it's just common sense that you should return the item in the same condition you received it.
Glad Newegg took care of it, we can keep shopping there.

Common sense is an overused term in this thread. In this entire forum, actually. Where do you draw the line ? Do you have to uninstall OS Service Packs ? The computer didn't come with them. Uninstall your Internet Security Package and install the one that came with the PC even if it has nothing to do with the fact it's a hardware fault ? Revert to an earlier BIOS (sometimes this is actually impossible) ? And what if you can't do it ? What if the PC won't boot or the keyboard doesn't work or the screen doesn't work or the battery doesn't work ? Are you supposed to have a laptop just like that one so you can reinstall the bundled software on the HDD ? Or have a spare monitor, keyboard, etc ? Don't forget, it can't be just any computer like someone suggested, it has to be the same model, otherwise the bundle won't install properly because all the drivers are specific and won't install on a different motherboard. You would end up giving Newegg room to claim the same thing. What if it's the HDD that is faulty ?
Are you going to discriminate cases where the PC is faulty but you can still reinstall the original bundled software and cases where the PC won't allow you to do it ?
Imagine she had installed Linux on a virtual machine. Can she do it ? Just because Windows is still there, does it mean Linux can't harm the system ? What about a dual boot configuration that brings up a boot menu ? Windows is still there, perhaps even with all the bundled software; how is this different from having Firefox and an Office package installed ? Where do you draw the line to say that she can't install specific software ?