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I built my current computer somewhere around 2008-09 and really the only things I've changed about it were the graphics card and a new power supply when my old one crapped out on me and I think it's finally time to build a new system. I like gaming and I'm impatient so speed and power are essential. I'm hoping to throw something together that'll make my current rig look like little kid stuff, but am limited to around a $1,000-$1,500 budget. Here's what I'm running now:
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Motherboard: Asus P5Q-Pro
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (OC'd to 3.6 GHz)
Memory: G.SKill Trident DDR2 4 GB 1200 MHz
Hard Drive: Western Digital Velociraptor 150 GB
Graphics Card: Nvidia GTX 460
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W
Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit

I've always liked Intel and am hoping to find another great processor like the Core 2 Duo was in its heyday. I'm looking at the i7's now, but there's a lot to pick from. I've been out of the game so long that I don't know which is considered best (for the money that is). I'll snag some nice fast DDR3 memory, which is pretty painless to pick, and a nice SSD. What motherboard chipset is considered good and would compliment an i7/DDR3 build well? I'm also running a sound card so would 600 watts be enough to power a hungry i7 and new video card or would I need to go bigger in a new power supply? My only other concern at the moment is who is considered at the top of the graphics world right now. I've always liked Nvidia as well but I'll happily jump over to ATI if they're smoking Nvidia right now. Any suggestions on that?

I love these boards and am looking forward to the suggestions.

Thanks,

Piloten
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post #2 of 19
Power demands have dropped with the newer systems. Your current Antec PSU is more than enough. A single intel CPU & a GPU won't stress a 450w system. As for graphics cards, AMD has more options at the higher levels right now, but the 680 & 670 are currently the two most preferred GPUs and the 670 may be in your budget.

An i7 is useless to you unless you do certain highly multi-threaded professional applications (or produce a stream, another reason to make your computer video encode), An i5 will be just fine.

Intel desktop, mainstream platform:

Some Celerons/Pentiums: true dual-cores
i3: dual-core with hyperthreading
i5: true quad-core
i7: quad-core with hyperthreading

Hyperthreading is generally not useful for games (on some rare occasions the i3 will be superior to the pentiums though). So generally games get an i5 to allow for a larger SSD/better GPU. The other thing to consider is which i5: the i5-2500k is best if you're an aggressive overclocker as it can reach higher clocks speeds without heat problems. The i5-3570k is best if you're a moderate overclocker or a fan of the Total War series. The i5-3450 is best if you don't bother with overclocking & want to save a few bucks.

In your budget range you generally want a Z77 platform, but the B75 platform can be $50 or so cheaper and for that reason is often preferred when not overclocking (B75 boards cannot overclock).

As far as RAM goes, 1600mhz speed ram is slightly better than 1333, but higher than that does not provide any real-world benefit in modern Intel systems (higher speeds will provide some benefit for AMD systems).

I'm assuming you're in the states. Confirm that and let me know if you'll be reusing your case\DVD drive, what sound card you have, how many GB or TB of storage you'd desire in an ideal build and what monitor you have (or its resolution), and I'll put up a part list of what I'd get if I were you for gaming.
    
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post #3 of 19
Nvidia is preferred by many enthusiasts now because of price/performance ratio

For pure gaming, an i5 is more than enough. An i7 will do if you also stream/ encode videos/ photoshop/ etc...

Right now, you would want to go with a K series processor along with a nice quality Z77 chipset motherboard
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post #4 of 19
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I'll more than likely be selling my current rig to my parents as it is more than enough for what they need and they are in desperate need of a new computer so any parts currently in it are staying, except for my sound card, which is a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium. And yes, I live in the states. I'll be grabbing stuff from NewEgg to save on shipping and I like their prices. As far as storage goes, I never have that many games installed at once so around 120 GB - 150 GB is plenty for me. My monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 2232BW 1680x1050 resolution, but I'm hoping to have enough money left over to snag something new of a similar size.
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post #5 of 19
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Forget to mention I do listen do a considerable amount of music, though any basic rig should be able to handle that and I do like to jump on PhotoShop for fun quite often, though nothing on a professional scale. An i7 would be more favorable to me I think.
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post #6 of 19
Are you near a microcenter? That would save you tons of money

i5 3570k = $180 from MC, $220 from newegg

ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 = $90 with i5 combo from MC, $140 from newegg

Crucial M4 128GB SSD = $125

1 GTX 670 = $400

SeaSonic X650W Gold = $140 or Corsair AX650 = $150 (SeaSonic made both of these)

I'd go with an NZXT Phantom or Switch 810 Full Tower. Both from $130-$180

You could also go with a Cooler Master HAF X or 932 for the same price

For cooling, I'd get an H100 cooling system from Corsair or a quality air cooler like the Noctua D14.

Any 1600MHz 8GB RAM kit will do fine.

Don't double post, just edit it thumb.gif

Light photoshoping won't need an i7. You're just wasting money on 4 simulated cores.
Edited by TinDaDragon - 6/12/12 at 5:16pm
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post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by TinDaDragon View Post

Are you near a microcenter? That would save you tons of money
i5 3570k = $180 from MC, $220 from newegg
ASRock Extreme 4 Z77 = $90 with i5 combo from MC, $140 from newegg
Crucial M4 128GB SSD = $125
1 GTX 670 = $400
SeaSonic X650W Gold = $140 or Corsair AX650 = $150 (SeaSonic made both of these)
I'd go with an NZXT Phantom or Switch 810 Full Tower. Both from $130-$180
You could also go with a Cooler Master HAF X or 932 for the same price
For cooling, I'd get an H100 cooling system from Corsair or a quality air cooler like the Noctua D14.
Any 1600MHz 8GB RAM kit will do fine.
Don't double post, just edit it thumb.gif
Light photoshoping won't need an i7. You're just wasting money on 4 simulated cores.

Never even heard of Micro Center to be honest and sorry about the double post. Would you say the GTX 670 right now is the best for the money compared to similar models and ATI? The video card is of course a main concern to a gamer, as is the processor. I don't mind spending a little extra on a processor if it'll benefit me. I'm just not familiar with i5's and i7's.
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Never even heard of Micro Center to be honest and sorry about the double post. Would you say the GTX 670 right now is the best for the money compared to similar models and ATI? The video card is of course a main concern to a gamer, as is the processor. I don't mind spending a little extra on a processor if it'll benefit me. I'm just not familiar with i5's and i7's.

GTX 670 is the best right now compared to AMD's. The bit extra is about $80-$100. I don't think you will need that. It won't be any more futureproof than the i5

i5 3570k is a member of Intel's newest Ivy Bridge series. A very good chip
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post #9 of 19
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GTX 670 is the best right now compared to AMD's. The bit extra is about $80-$100. I don't think you will need that. It won't be any more futureproof than the i5
i5 3570k is a member of Intel's newest Ivy Bridge series. A very good chip

In terms of what I'm running now, I'd hope for there to be a noticeable difference in overall performance right? I'd rather save the money if it'd be subjective and sort of 'meh.'
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In terms of what I'm running now, I'd hope for there to be a noticeable difference in overall performance right? I'd rather save the money if it'd be subjective and sort of 'meh.'

You will see a HUGE increase in performance

I guarantee it
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