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I have tested commands for cfg file and I have discovered that r_FogShadows when turned ON is taking 15% performance hit with minimum additional picture quality.

r_FogShadows = On

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r_FogShadows = Off

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Also I have increased distance ratio from 100 to 150.

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r_FogShadows = Off
r_TexturesStreamPoolSize = 1024
e_MergedMeshesViewDistRatio = 100
e_LodRatio = 80
e_ViewDistRatio = 150
e_ViewDistRatioVegetation = 150
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Originally Posted by greenfish View Post

is this a bloody joke?

using high settings, i'm getting between 30-80fps (no vsync) on high specs, 2x aa, ????

Really my system isn't capable of maintaining 60fps????

I ran crysis 2+maldohd 4 NEVER dipped in fps down to 30??!?

Going from 60 down to 30 really breaks any sort of immersion not to mention it feels like a tank.

Tell me i'm not alone... please if you're on a VERY high end system don't reply smile.gif


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Same for me on a 7970 @ GHZ clocks. Even with the new beta drivers. I have tried different settings, different resolutions and different CPU clocks speeds... I believe it is the game. Will just have to wait for newer drivers/patches.
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Don't know why so many AMD cpu users have been getting so psyched since this game came out. So your CPU finally caught up with 2 year old Intel tech in one game? Wow. wink.gif
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Got a link with some validation around that, or is this just your opinion?

Uhm. They changed the powers completely and made it into 2 buttons. (QE) rather than 4 different options such as Speed, Cloak, Strength and Armor(Default)
To fit consoles control scheme (just like Blizzard streamlined the s out of Diablo 3 to work with PS3, removing lots of buttons etc)
They removed Lean features, they removed Prone.
1 shot 1 kill in Crysis 2 and 3 with exception of "heavily armored" units.
It has a severe lack of optimization, many people pre AMD 7series/NV 6series can barely play it.
Tiny little maze levels rather than big open spaces. (Yet performs awful)
Overall dumb down, the AI was smarter in Crysis 1 than they were in Crysis 2 and 3, they flanked you and used cover and such.
We had vehicles too in Crysis 1, we have like nothing in Crysis 2 and 3 other than maybe a scripted level where youre the gunner.
We had an awesome physics level that wouldnt work on consoles, like Core, so none of that.
We have like no destruction in Crysis 2 and 3, or physics interaction.
post #1545 of 2419
So what im hearing is people saying its a console port (no surprise) and those who have let their standards slip saying its a great game.

Wheres the nanosuitninja when you need a decent opinion...
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Originally Posted by Mach 5 View Post

So what im hearing is people saying its a console port (no surprise) and those who have let their standards slip saying its a great game.

Wheres the nanosuitninja when you need a decent opinion...

nanosuitninja is at cryteks home office (no joke) so have fun listening to his opinion.

I must have let me standars slip then because sp is great.

Multiplayer is a whole new breed, which needs fixing.
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There. Done. Beat the entire game in one go. All side-questions, all the intel I could find. And on post-human. Now I'm writing this.

All I can say is: What?


Seriously. What.

Non-spoiler review:
It's way too short, it has HORRIBLE flaws (mostly near the end), and generally isn't that fun to play. By about the 5th mission I found myself avoiding fights (just like C2! Hey! What a coincidence), simply because they weren't fun.

Really, I have to say, I'm not that impressed. I'm not disappointed, but then again, I wasn't expecting anything like C1. It was definitely better than C2, but TBH that's not that hard. I'm just not sure where Crytek went wrong - no wait, I am. EA wanted a multi-platform game and more money, so it had to be more "consumer friendly". We got dumbed down gameplay (again!), and way more focus on over-the-top story / cinematic.

C1 was a great game for one reason: gameplay. It gave us huge maps, and basically any method we wanted for taking them on. Stealth was viable, run-and-gun was viable, sniping was viable - EVERYTHING worked. You showed up to a situation, and either scoped it out, or just ran in. It didn't matter. If you had skill, the game would allow you to play in any way you wanted.

C3 did improve over C2 a fair bit. The maps ARE more open - however, it's somewhat fake. While each level is WAY bigger than anything in C2, any time you get a big map, it's pretty much empty. At one point in the game, you'll find yourself in a big open area. You'll see that the nearest objective is OVER 2KM AWAY. You might think - "WOW! An epic open map like C1". Nope. After about 150m of fairly closed in space, you get a vehicle, and you drive the 2km. There's no enemies in this section, and no real challenge. The visuals in that area aren't even that amazing. In addition, to make it seem bigger, the vehicle maxes out at about 26 "speed" (km/h?), which is pretty slow (C1 could hit 40-50, iirc).

The gameplay is also a lot more limiting. Armor really isn't viable, so all you'll end up using is stealth. This is basically a stealth-based game at max difficulty. You have no choice. Stick out from cover for 2-3 sec and you're dead, even against one CELL guy. Unfortunately, that means only about 4-5 of the suit unlocks are worth it. In addition, this literally means that the ENTIRE GAME when fighting against Cell you are using ONE weapon: The bow. There's no reason not to. It doesn't drain energy when fired from cloak. It s a 1-shot kill. It's silent. If you use normal bolts, you can collect them for infinite ammo. You get the bow VERY early on in the game, so really, there's no reason not to use it against the Cell at any point in the game. I think you are forced to take out ABOUT 8 guys before getting the bow. Seriously.

The suit is still its boring C2 self. You've got armor and stealth. Sprint is sprint, it's NOT speed mode. It's not a mode. Its just sprinting. Strength is about the same. You toggle it by holding whatever key down, rather than tapping it. There also seems to be no super-strength punch. So enjoy mashing the melee key for non-stealth kills. The upgrade system can also be ignored after about the 3rd level.

The save system is also total garbage. There's no quick save, manual save, or anything. The game works on completely arbitrary checkpoints. Die near the end of a boss fight? Oh well, back the beginning. Die just before completing an objective? Oh well, back the end of the last one - hope you like walking. There's also no console command to force saving, so yea, enjoy that.

It's not all bad though. The graphics in the outdoor levels ARE amazing. The water looks stunning, especially with the caustics. The models are great, and minus a few somewhat low-rez textures here and there (not very common) the graphics are very uniform in quality. It's got great immersion when playing (minus when you die at the same point 5 times), and the performance is fairly good. On my desktop (i7 2600k @ 4.5ghz, 8GB ram, GTX 570 SLI) I get between 45-80fps, with it peaking at 120fps (my cap) in certain areas. It's surprisingly easy to run, considering the quality. There's still a few "what?" situations, such as cut scenes running at about 22-24fps the whole time, when seconds before I'll be getting 50-60, and the somewhat strange lack of tessellation on character faces in SOME cut scenes (more noticeable in some that others). The console is still pretty much worthless, save for a handful of "r_" commands. The FoV settings are bugged, and they'll reset when the game closes and/or when you load a save. It's annoying, but I didn't really mind the 55-vertical FoV all that much. Could be better, but oh well.

Some spoilers: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Now, here is where most of my "what" comes from. The story line. It's pretty narrow in scope. It's basically "kill the alpha ceph" the entire time. You're introduced to it at the beginning, and it's just a chase to kill it until the very end. There's ONE side-plot (Psycho's suit), and it's really not that amazing. They took his suit, he's mad, turns out mystery woman who he has a thing for did it. But guess what, mystery woman dies, and he forgives her. The end. Then after the cut scene Psycho kills the Cell CEO guys (at least its implied). You can see the whole Karl sub-plot from about 5 miles away as well. First time you meet him "I can't get a read on you. What's up with you?" Guess what. He's part Ceph. Oh no. Who could have guessed the strange guy who looks impossibly young for his age (he's the same age as Hargreave, iirc) is really evil. Then he dies, only after learning his mistake, with the typical "you can stop them, blah blah blah" thing that we saw in C2, as well as Mass Effect 1 with a certain character - you know who if you've played it (we'll get to this...).

Basically after about this, the plot just goes into insane mode. Guess what. They're going to blow up NYC with a giant space laser, and you need to stop it. Guess what. After THREE LEVELS you stop it. Who could have foreseen this incredible plot development.

Meanwhile the entire "is he human" thing gets repeated an incredible amount. blah blah blah - "I'm not just a machine" - blah blah blah - "is he even human" - blah blah blah - "You are a machine". You get the idea. The sub-plot is: "Is Prophet man or Machine". Again, after C2, it's not surprising. This could also have been really, really cool. However, it's done really really badly.

Near the end of the game, the game literally says "hey we need a boss fight here", and throws you in one. Oh look, the VTOL needs to land for repairs, you need to fight this one-off Ceph alien guy. Amazing. This boss also follows the most boring combat scheme you can imagine: Shoot guy in face, without taking damage. That's all you need to do. You shoot about 500-600 rounds of MG ammo into his face, you get a Button-spamming moment, you shoot another 500-600 rounds of MG into his face, and he died. If you crouch behind cover, it's pretty hard to screw this up. It's not fun. It's not challenging. It's just a boring grind as you hold mouse 1 down for about 6 minutes.

Then you fly off, do some stupid generic grindy "shoot alien in face" stuff. Eventually we get to the 2nd best part of the game, the alien ship stuff. You go around pressing buttons, and walking into things for 10-second hallucinations. After a bit, you get to take part in THE WORST FPS BOSS FIGHT OF ALL TIME. Seriously, It's THAT bad.

Shoot the alien guy in the face, and hope his magical AI doesn't decide to one shot you. Hiding behind a rock? Guess what. The bullets can curve or something and hit you. Hiding in one of the few APCs in the area? Guess what. He can 1-shot that thing without any warning. Running? Here's a magical AoE strafe-attack that 1-shots you. This fight is more luck that skill. In any event, the pattern is the same trash as above. Shoot him in the face, mash space bar. But wait! This is THE FINAL BOSS! So you get to do it 3 times.

Oh yea, and everything in this fight is a massive rip-off of the ending of Mass Effect 2 - which coincidentally also sucked compared to the first.

Then you get a magical cutscene button moment, and you kill it with the already-determined horribly OP bow. Psycho shows up in the Vtol FOR NO REASON AT ALL, and says "he's all yours, boss" (so why did he come?). He crashes, you try to save him. you get a last-second "it's never been about the suit - it's the person - blah blah blah" thing, then you go into SPAAAAAAACCEEEEEEE.... For a completely pointless "level". You control a giant space laser, you line it up with the giant Ceph ship, press mouse 1, and that's it. GG. You win. Then you get a Halo-2 moment as the SUIT CRASHES INTO THE EARTH without a parachute, magically landing (although it's a nice choice) in the exact same place as the beginning of C1. As a nice touch, Prophet now lives in that "first light" shack, and he has a monologue. Although for some reason his facial model is really... strange (doesn't look like Prophet from C1). However, he doesn't have a suit anymore (where did it go?), and he basically IS a suit (is this where it went?). He can now cloak himself (and his cloths), and finishes with the same crap line as in C2 "They call me prophet - remember me".

The ceph are gone, you win. Everyone is happy.

Oh wait. No. We aren't. At least I'm not.
WHERE IN THE HELL IS NOMAD.

Seriously. This is a MASSIVE missing thread. He's mentioned ONCE in-game in both C2 and C3. They never say if he's alive/dead/retired or what. More mystically, he's missing from Prophet's dog-tag collection. We've got Jester, Aztec and "cupcake" (or something like that). So.... Nomad lives? Mind telling me WHERE HE IS? A quick wiki says that he's dead. We'll, it would really have been nice to tell us that the MAIN CHARACTER DIED. You know. Maybe mention it? Also, his name is NOT on the dog tags, so there's some real shenanigans going on here.

We've also got the Ceph retcon going on, but at this point I dont think Crytek even cares.

Basically, if you expected answers.... there aren't any. This game makes about as much sense as C2.

Over all, It's not a BAD game - it's just not very good - and definitely NOT worth $60 (Yes, I do regret it - would have been fine at $20 - $30). I'd say it's probably a 7/10, with C2 being a 6/10 and C1 being 9/10. You get a 7-8 hour campaign (at best), some sort of plot, some OK gameplay, and some amazing graphics. You'll beat it once, maybe twice, and that's it. I have yet to try the MP, but if its like the beta, it's nothing special either.

Crytek REALLY needs to go back to its roots on the whole SP-aspect. Far Cry, Crysis, and even warhead were great. MASSIVE open levels, a decent plot (it didn't TRY to be amazing), and great gameplay. There's TONS of replay value, and the challenge comes form the AI, not crappy design (infinite re spawning guys, strange hit boxes, etc.). Crytek's newer games are very clearly more "mainstream", which IMO isn't great.



As a side note, here's an interesting coincidence. I wanted to show a friend of mine "STALKER: Clear Sky", but my current install is corrupt. In getting the box/disc out, I found I still had the receipt - it was $26.99. Now, let's compare it to C3. For its time, the graphics were very good. There's more space in Clear Sky, more weapons, more customization, FAR more side questions, an equally interesting story, and a main campaign that last a good 15 hours.... FOR LESS THAN HALF THE PRICE ON RELEASE.

After noticing this, It's sad to say, but I don't think I'll be buying SP-FPS games on release anymore. They just aren't worth it. For $60 you get a 6-8 campaign with little replay value, and 99% of the time a tacked on multi-player that tries to appeal to CoD players. As a result the 5-10 hour MP life and the 6-8SP campaign (probably a bit longer due to replays), just doesn't add up. In the rest of the year I might play 30 hours of C3, which adds up to $2 an hour. Crysis 1, which was $50 on release has around 150-200 hours played (almost entirely SP), which is about 25 cents an hour - a pretty fair deal.

So yea. It's decent, I guess. Nothing amazing. The Crysis series is pretty much dead to me at this point. It's evident that Crytek cant/doesnt want to make a game like C1 anymore, which is a shame, as there's still a very big demand for something like it. The only reason I bought this was to avoid spoiling the story, as I did with Mass Effect 3 (totally spoiled it, haven't played it yet). Turns out the story wasn't really that good to begin with, and the gameplay didn't make up for it. If you're on the fence, wait a while. Maybe by December it'll hit a reasonable price.
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Originally Posted by hamzta09 View Post

Uhm. They changed the powers completely and made it into 2 buttons. (QE) rather than 4 different options such as Speed, Cloak, Strength and Armor(Default)
To fit consoles control scheme (just like Blizzard streamlined the s out of Diablo 3 to work with PS3, removing lots of buttons etc)
They removed Lean features, they removed Prone.
1 shot 1 kill in Crysis 2 and 3 with exception of "heavily armored" units.
It has a severe lack of optimization, many people pre AMD 7series/NV 6series can barely play it.
Tiny little maze levels rather than big open spaces. (Yet performs awful)
Overall dumb down, the AI was smarter in Crysis 1 than they were in Crysis 2 and 3, they flanked you and used cover and such.
We had vehicles too in Crysis 1, we have like nothing in Crysis 2 and 3 other than maybe a scripted level where youre the gunner.
We had an awesome physics level that wouldnt work on consoles, like Core, so none of that.
We have like no destruction in Crysis 2 and 3, or physics interaction.

I have beaten Crysis 1 several times throughout the years. The game had great grapichs and superior gameplay, and that was it. The story was horrendous and the AI was one of the worst and still is (even with mods).

I'll take the 2 cloak/stealth vs crysis 1 scheme anyday.

You can 1 shot kill in crysis 2 and 3 if you headshot including mp.

Crysis 1 was one big linear map. The path where you drive the tank was very linear, there's just 2-3 directions you can ago before you hit an invisible wall. I've played the game like rambo and like nanosuitninja so I know every map in crysis.

Oh and the one's who are you using the tired/jaded EA approach, give it a rest. EA is a publisher, if you don't like they way they run things find another publisher.

Don't like crysis 3? Blame the devs not EA.
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I'm missing shots with bow while aiming right in the middle of enemy's body even when standing right behind them, anyone having this too? It's usually just one random enemy that can't be hit with bow and I have to kill it with normal weapon.
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This is interesting for those wondering about the quality between low and VHigh.
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