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Originally Posted by guyladouche View Post

But on the other hand, you can spend far less than that on something else and still come out ahead 4 years later regardless of depreciation. smile.gif That being said, I honestly couldn't care less if people choose to buy PCs or Macs, but it's seldom about monetary value and value-retention for most people who choose either.

I buy a new MBP every year..have been for the last 5 years or so..

I generally get about a $100 less than I pay for them..

that would be $8.34 per month. that would mean I've paid $100.08 over the last 5 years for a notebooks..I'll go ahead and add the original cost in the year I don't buy a new computer..

even if I wait 2 years I can sell the computer for about $300 less than new..its about TCO not original cost..
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What you are saying is that a 6000 mAh lithium battery still has close to 6000 mAh after 700 cycles. Current lithium battery tech says not possible. All lithium batteries degrade quite a bit every year.

its no use arguing about how many "cycles" people are getting out of their batteries with "X" amount of battery life left, as it is ENTIRELY dependent on how the battery is used.....I could make a Li-Ion Battery do 2000 cycles with still >90% capacity, as long as it is never discharged more than 10%.

The fact of the matter is, the battery is only going to last as long as your usage habits allow it to.
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post #113 of 166
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It all depends on depth of discharge (less discharge / cycle = better battery life) and amount of cycles "spent".
On average ~5-10% is lost every 100 cycles. But it varies depending on how you use your battery. If you keep your battery topped up all the time (better) or drain it completely several times (worse).
There you go smile.gif http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
She drains it nearly completely every single time. I'll be sure to post screenshots of the numbers when I get home.

Here's my machine, it's a 2009 15" MacBook Pro and it's the original battery, from 2009.

440
Still 100% of the original full charge capacity. I am a certified Apple technician with access to official Apple diagnostics which also confirm my system profiler readings but I am not at liberty to post those pictures.
Edited by Xylene - 6/14/12 at 2:54pm
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post #114 of 166
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But on the other hand, you can spend far less than that on something else and still come out ahead 4 years later regardless of depreciation. smile.gif That being said, I honestly couldn't care less if people choose to buy PCs or Macs, but it's seldom about monetary value and value-retention for most people who choose either.

That's another way to go about it but I prefer to spend more from the get go in order to get the technology, style, and quality that I want thumb.gif
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She drains it nearly completely every single time. I'll be sure to post screenshots of the numbers when I get home.
Here's my machine, it's a 2009 15" MacBook Pro and it's the original battery, from 2009.
440
Still 100% of the original full charge capacity. I am a certified Apple technician with access to official Apple diagnostics which also confirm my system profiler readings but I am not at liberty to post those pictures.

Lucky... my 2009 13" MBP only holds around 80% of the charge it did when it was new... then again, I've around 1200 cycles
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Still getting one.

o_O

Can I have some seeds bro?



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Originally Posted by Xylene View Post

She drains it nearly completely every single time. I'll be sure to post screenshots of the numbers when I get home.
Here's my machine, it's a 2009 15" MacBook Pro and it's the original battery, from 2009.
Still 100% of the original full charge capacity. I am a certified Apple technician with access to official Apple diagnostics which also confirm my system profiler readings but I am not at liberty to post those pictures.

I suppose she is one lucky user or Apple has some very high end lithium ion batteries.
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Why not?

Because wouldn't it cost the company more money? They have to produce tons of logic/memory boards. RAM fails so often it doesn't make any sense. They will end up spending more money on repairs, and I can no longer take any MBP retinas in for repair come 1-2 years when they start failing.

People drop their laptops all the time. Screen replacements are half my business. How can I charge a customer half the laptop cost and expect them to repair it? They will always buy a new one.... mad.gif
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I have never heard that....Do you have any articles on it, would love to look into it more but I can't research much while at work.

Have you ever used an old laptop? Really? I mean, my Dell D600 doesn't last a second without the plug. Pretty much every laptop that comes into the repair shop has a shot battery.

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Not true. My girlfriend is still using her original battery with her late 2007 MacBook. It has well over 700 cycles the last time I checked and still has nearly 100% of it's original full charge capacity.

That's amazing. Truly, probably one of the only few.....


I hate that the batteries were "non-replaceable" before, but now they are actually glued to the damn thing? At least all you needed to do was remove two screws.

I will say this: EVERY SINGLE NOOB in the world is going to CRY how fast MBP is because of the SSD. New Windows Laptops still do not have SSD as standard stuff. So get ready guys for all your friends to be all 0mgz my laaa1top1 is so fasssst i got the new mbp it boots in 10 seocnds!! OMGXZZZ
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Because wouldn't it cost the company more money? They have to produce tons of logic/memory boards. RAM fails so often it doesn't make any sense. They will end up spending more money on repairs, and I can no longer take any MBP retinas in for repair come 1-2 years when they start failing.
People drop their laptops all the time. Screen replacements are half my business. How can I charge a customer half the laptop cost and expect them to repair it? They will always buy a new one.... mad.gif
Have you ever used an old laptop? Really? I mean, my Dell D600 doesn't last a second without the plug. Pretty much every laptop that comes into the repair shop has a shot battery.
That's amazing. Truly, probably one of the only few.....
I hate that the batteries were "non-replaceable" before, but now they are actually glued to the damn thing? At least all you needed to do was remove two screws.
I will say this: EVERY SINGLE NOOB in the world is going to CRY how fast MBP is because of the SSD. New Windows Laptops still do not have SSD as standard stuff. So get ready guys for all your friends to be all 0mgz my laaa1top1 is so fasssst i got the new mbp it boots in 10 seocnds!! OMGXZZZ

But I has teh ssd too?

And yeah, I've heard Apple products are a nightmare for technicians.
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And yeah, I've heard Apple products are a nightmare for technicians.

Technicians repairing an Apple product? No way...everyone knows Apple users just buy another one. It's the Apple way.

Sorry, can't resist trolling Apple buyers.
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