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Shoot for 4.5ghz. Have a look at this review. Hope it helps. http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1603/14/
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when i first saw this thread i thought you meant i7-980x and i was like
headscratch.gif wat

I thought the exact same thing at first... I came in this thread to watch him get flamed hard till I realized I was mistaken lol
     
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when i first saw this thread i thought you meant i7-980x and i was like
headscratch.gif wat

lol...me too.
 
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Then why did AMD bring out new generation of CPUs that are slower then the previous? Was gaming not part of the Demographic? Or is it like Sampron to the Athlon type of deal? Low budget CPUs for the masses aka non gamers/enthusiasts?


Amd messed up /thread. It's not slower in all technicality, but it's really not good.

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Shoot for 4.5ghz. Have a look at this review. Hope it helps. http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1603/14/

4 is so modest! 400mhz?!?

Also the legitreviews is using the infamous 890FXA-GD70 which is known for VRM failures despite the new DrMos. You have a good board, so you should be able to crank up the overclock provided that 620 isn't hitting your heatwall yet.

For me, going above 4.2ghz requires 1.5 up from 1.44 which provides insane heat so I'm maxed out even though I upgraded from a 212+ to my D14.
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post #25 of 36
keep the 980 and see what piledrivers got to offer
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4 is so modest! 400mhz?!?
Also the legitreviews is using the infamous 890FXA-GD70 which is known for VRM failures despite the new DrMos. You have a good board, so you should be able to crank up the overclock provided that 620 isn't hitting your heatwall yet.
For me, going above 4.2ghz requires 1.5 up from 1.44 which provides insane heat so I'm maxed out even though I upgraded from a 212+ to my D14.
I am kinda new to the Overclocking world. And got up to 4.0ghz by just bumping up the multiplier and thought that was good enough guess I can try more. I have yet to hit my heatwall and I think you mean by "heatwall" is 70c? If so then yeah never got near that even when playing Crysis 2 or BF3 or Batman Arkham City.
post #27 of 36
Generally speaking PII's shouldn't go over 62 but mine sometimes hits 65 and I don't give a damn. It will reduce the CPU's lifespan but as these chips last decades I'm not bothered about it not lasting 10 years, or even 5. I intend to upgrade when Piledriver hits as I need a CPU with 8 cores.

On Chinese forums it's recommended that the CPU be kept below 70C, regardless of what AMD say. But I would say 70 for 24/7 is a little high and you should see if you can somehow reduce that, if that's what your CPU is at most of the time.
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Generally speaking PII's shouldn't go over 62 but mine sometimes hits 65 and I don't give a damn.

At 55ºC my CPU begins to be terribly unstable, at 57ºC it isn't stable at all and at 62ºC it will barely hold stock clocks.

So yes, temperature matters in PhIIs.

But, my same CPU kept at 10ºC at a corespeed of 4.4GHz (1.6V), is perfectly stable.
   
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At 55ºC my CPU begins to be terribly unstable, at 57ºC it isn't stable at all and at 62ºC it will barely hold stock clocks.
So yes, temperature matters in PhIIs.
But, my same CPU kept at 10ºC at a corespeed of 4.4GHz (1.6V), is perfectly stable.

All Chips are different. Just because one can't do it doesn't mean another won't, if it did it would mean we'd all be able to either not overclock at all or OC to the exact same speed.
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Yes different chips do behave and react differently to it's vcore. In terms of temperatures AMD has official mentioned them to be at 62c on the core for the phenom II. Whereas,max temps for the athlon II x2 are higher than those of the phenom II. Having said this,it is also because of the stock heatsink and fan which come with the respective athlon II and phenom II chips. There is definitely a reason for mentioning the max temps,if it is stable over 62c,then lucky you. The max temps are given based on the average temps of the phenom II chips when manufactured. On an average for all phenom II chips, most become unstable at over 62c on the core. A part from shortning the life span of the cpu the other effect of extremely high temps is a decrease in performance. Temps not only shorten the life span,they also lead to instability. This however,may not result in BSOD's but it can lead to a decrease in performance which cannot be seen without the help of benchmarks. The performance decrease may occur only after a few hours of continous exposure to high temps. So it's important to keep your temps in check to avoid the long time consuming and tedious procedure of checking hour after hour for decrease in performance resulting from high temps. Temps even lower the overclocking ability. Simply put,most highest clocks are achieved with liquid cooling but why so? This is because temps are reduced even more than on air.
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