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post #91 of 142
6/15/12 at 10:00pm
This is not making sense.... Since when does Vliw4 xfire with vliw5?
Neutered Cayman xfire's with Turks? thinking.gif
Re-branded Turks 7600 series(OEM) will be able to xfire.
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What about xfiring a vliw4 discrete with that vliw4 trinity igp? thinking.gif 6930? (limited market)

Sooo very confused confused.gif
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6/15/12 at 10:04pm
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This is not making sense.... Since when does Vliw4 xfire with vliw5?
Neutered Cayman xfire's with Turks? thinking.gif
Re-branded Turks 7600 series(OEM) will be able to xfire.
6670 Turks xfires.(was OEM only then released to retail)
What about xfiring a vliw4 discrete with that vliw4 trinity igp? thinking.gif 6930? (limited market)
Sooo very confused confused.gif

VLIW4 is only limited to HD69xx series (so that AMD can cram more stream processors on to the die). All other HD5000 and HD6000 series use VLIW5. Llano and Trinity use VLIW5.
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6/15/12 at 10:06pm
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VLIW4 is only limited to HD69xx series. All other HD5000 and HD6000 series uses VLIW5. Llano and Trinity uses VLIW5.

That is definitively not what the article said. Article says Trinity uses vliw4. Hence the confusion tongue.gif
Edited by Tyreal - 6/15/12 at 10:09pm
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6/15/12 at 10:08pm
And this article.
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Originally Posted by http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-4600m-trinity-piledriver,3202-3.html 
While Trinity benefits from the very latest work in AMD’s processor portfolio, the APU employs a one-generation-old graphics architecture (that is to say it doesn’t use the Graphics Core Next design at the heart of Radeon HD 7000-series cards). Nevertheless, Trinity’s on-die GPU—ominously code-named Devastator--isn’t a re-hash of the old VLIW5 arrangement first seen in the Radeon HD 2900 XT either. It’s based on the more efficient VLIW4 design exclusive to the Radeon HD 6900 series.

And this one.
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Originally Posted by http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/4455?cPage=5&all=False&sort=0&page=7&slug=amds-graphics-core-next-preview-amd-architects-for-compute 
What we know for a fact is that Trinity – the 2012 Bulldozer APU – will not use GCN, it will be based on Cayman’s VLIW4 architecture.

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6/15/12 at 10:22pm
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VLIW4 is only limited to HD69xx series (so that AMD can cram more stream processors on to the die). All other HD5000 and HD6000 series use VLIW5. Llano and Trinity use VLIW5.

Trinity is VLIW4.
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6/15/12 at 10:38pm
Time for someone to figure out how to xfire hackfire any gen card with any gen card smile.gif
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6/15/12 at 11:41pm
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Time for someone to figure out how to xfire hackfire any gen card with any gen card smile.gif

Someone did, it's called Lucid Hydra. Which turned out to be a nearly complete disaster. As far as I know, there were three boards that used the Hydra chip. The MSI Big Bang Fuzion, 870A Fuzion, and Asus Crosshair IV Extreme. It never lived up to expectations, performance varied wildly from scaling nearly perfectly to actually degrading performance, with mostly just providing small performance gains. Also, it depended heavily on drivers being made specific for each card setup for each game, so it never really took off. From what I see, Asus only included so that AMD users can officially SLI on an AM3 platform; this was before the 9xx got SLI certification.
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6/15/12 at 11:58pm
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Someone did, it's called Lucid Hydra. Which turned out to be a nearly complete disaster. As far as I know, there were three boards that used the Hydra chip. The MSI Big Bang Fuzion, 870A Fuzion, and Asus Crosshair IV Extreme. It never lived up to expectations, performance varied wildly from scaling nearly perfectly to actually degrading performance, with mostly just providing small performance gains. Also, it depended heavily on drivers being made specific for each card setup for each game, so it never really took off. From what I see, Asus only included so that AMD users can officially SLI on an AM3 platform; this was before the 9xx got SLI certification.

Right, but that was 3rd party, i'm more referencing the whole Trinity being vliw4 doing hybrid xfire with vliw5 arch thing.
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6/16/12 at 12:35am
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VLIW4 is only limited to HD69xx series (so that AMD can cram more stream processors on to the die). All other HD5000 and HD6000 series use VLIW5. Llano and Trinity use VLIW5.

Trinity is VLIW4 and AMDs next-gen APU will no doubt use GCN.

It's smart, put the new tech on cards that are going to be expensive no matter what so if something happens that causes production issues it doesn't impede profits much.
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