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Hi everyone, it's been awhile since I have been on here, but there has always been exceptional help and support from this forum, so here I am again to ask for some suggestions.

I have been a system builder for quite a few years and in the last 3-4 years starting getting more serious about performance; big overclocking, crossfire, SSD's and RAID arrays. You know, breakin' stuff!

Well, now I have (3) Agility-3 60GB SSD's and would like to set them up in RAID 0 for the best performance in real world use. I currently have them in RAID 0 on the on-board controller. It has nice speeds, but the smalls are way too small! We need the smalls to be bigger.

This leads me to this, I need a good RAID card to run on my Sabertooth 990FX board with these three SSD's in RAID 0. I would like to maximize small file speeds, fast Windows load and shut down, fast program open and close, that sort of thing. When I run Crysis I want it to load fast, not just fast, but FAST. I should be able to get some really good numbers off of these SSD's, but I know I need a RAID card for it.

So, I have been looking at some RAID controllers, but am not knowledgeable enough about them to make a good decision, so please, make some suggestions about a good solid usable card for my situation. I would like to keep it inexpensive, but it seems I may have to be in the $300-400+ range to do this right. Please don't suggest a $500+ card, I won't spend that much, I'll live with this as it is.

Thanks for all the suggestions and advice that I am sure will come!!

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Running an Adaptec 6405E in my main rig currently with 3x 60gb Corsair Force 3's.. I always load into games etc faster than my clanmates etc.
It does slow down your boot up time (from actual power on to fully loaded windows with the raid bios) but if you're running onboard raid you should be more or less used to the delay as it initializes the array.

Though my card isn't the fastest on the market, it's a good performer for the price.
There are a couple LSI cards that would probably give you the best performance as long as price isn't an issue. I read a review on an LSI card that blew away most other current sata 6g raid controllers a while back. I'll see if i can find the model and link to the article..
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Thanks for the comments! As to the boot times, I am well aware of initialization times and don't mind that at all. I want it fast when I am in Windows doing stuff!! I actually rarely turn off the desktop, so it really isn't an issue for me.

I was looking at the areca ARC-1213-4I ($360 - Newegg) & the LSI MegaRAID SATA/SAS 9260-4i ($330 - Newegg)

I would like to spend less, but it seems that for what I am really looking for, going cheap isn't going to help me. I might as well stay with on-board if I do that.

As to the Adaptec 6405e, it looks like Newegg has several different versions of it, and they are all less expensive then the ones I mentioned above. If that is a good option for me with the performance gains I am looking for, then I am good with that.

More suggestions please! Thanks for looking and commenting!
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I've read that the LSI's are noticeably faster than my adaptec. You get what you pay for as they say.. biggrin.gif

The difference between the 2 6405e's on newegg is one comes with the SFF-8087 mini-SAS cable and the low profile bracket, and the other does not. the cables you can buy from a ton of different places from $12-25, so unless you need the low profile bracket as well, not worth the $40 difference.
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Well, this may have been hasty, but I just bought the LSI 9260 4i for $258 shipped to me - biggrin.gif. I figured it was as good a deal I would find on it (may be wrong on that, IDK) and I think it will fit the bill for me here.

Please offer any suggestions or comments to help me get this together and running. I am hopeful to have the card next week.

EDIT: it is supposed to be coming with a mini SAS-SATA fanout cable too, so maybe I won't have to pick one up.
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that's a good price for that card and cable together! Hope you get everything up and running to your liking!
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I have the LSI 9265-8i. Don't forget if you're putting any vital data on your drives, to consider the BBU unit for this card. It's the battery backup and preserves the cache data until its written out.
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the bbu's on any raid card can be pricey, but can be worth it in the end. If there's nothing on your array (anything i keep on my 3x ssd array is just windows and games, all can be reinstalled/downloaded easily) then it's not necessary. But if you're keeping important info, the bbu is almost essential.
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post #9 of 18
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That's good to know about the BBU's. I was considering one of them, but they are pricey, and I've probably (make that definitely) spent more than my wife would approve if I asked (easier to ask forgiveness than permission here!), so it's good know it is not as necessary as I thought..

I have the two WD drives for backing up all my "stuff" Everything I don't want to lose is on both of the WD's, two copies. If I lose both, then I guess I wasn't supposed to have all that crap I've been lugging from one computer to the other !! wth.gif

I was thinking of cloning the setup now and then cloning it back to the array once it's all set up on the controller. Is this something I can do? I do have Acronis which will clone stripes, and which I have already cloned stripes with (I own a repair shop that also sells tons of LCD screens), so I am pretty sure I should be able to do that. If someone knows otherwise, please let me know. thumb.gif

Thanks everyone for the input so far. Hopefully our discussions here can help others with a similar situation. I'll be sure to post up as it goes with how it went and final bench's.

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Are you running any raid currently with onboard? If you are, then you're better off not imaging it to the new controller as it won't have the correct raid drivers to boot from. If you're just running on a single drive, then you'll have to reinstall windows anyway to have it boot from the new raid controller. It's a pain, but that's how it goes. thumb.gif
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