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6/14/12 at 5:01pm
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Would you do it? Let's discuss the future of AMD and whether or not you see yourself using an APU in an enthusiast setting in the next 18 months.

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I am also assuming a high-end rig would have a dedicated graphics card either way. With the Crossfire performance of the iGPU with a dedicated card, do you see it being a viable option soon?
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6/14/12 at 5:08pm
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Would you do it? Let's discuss the future of AMD and whether or not you see yourself using an APU in an enthusiast setting in the next 18 months.

Not a High-End gaming rig, but if the discreet on die graphics are powerful enough, i would certainly have no problem using it in a system up to the $700 ish dollar range,

now, if AMD could come out with an APU that had the GPU of a 7900 series and 6 or more DECENT cores, I would snatch it up in heartbeat, even if they priced it around $700 ,because not having an individual card saves space, heat, and if you WC, money
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6/14/12 at 5:10pm
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Sorry, I should have qualified by saying "with the addition of a discrete graphics card".
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Sorry, I should have qualified by saying "with the addition of a discrete graphics card".
Oh no problem, my statement still stands, with tweeks
maybe up to the $800 range if the Quad's can compeat with a 2500k, but for anything high end, you're going to get TONS of Intel Fanbois saying, "Why don't you get a 2500k/2600k/whatever ib is, it will bottleneck" which MAY be true, but we really haven't been given any solid benches yet,

anyway, do you know which series gpu the top end trinity will have?
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6/14/12 at 5:28pm
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The highest-end Trinity for the launch window is specced as having a 7660, whatever that ends up meaning.
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6/14/12 at 6:30pm
Probably not. I like what the Llano and Trinity parts have to offer though: Good performance and modest power consumption in a single integrated package. To me, these are great platforms for 'casual users' who focus on applications such as web browsing, video playback, flash games, and basic office applications. In other words, a great machine for someone who isn't too tech savvy, and doesn't do a lot of gaming, but needs an everyday computer. No discrete card to worry about, doesn't break the bank in terms of cost or power bills due to lower power consumption requirements. It just works. Another good application might be a home / small office file server due to pretty much the same reasons mentioned above. Sure, you could slap in a proper video card, if you want a bit more video oomph, but it's then a tradeoff because I'd rather have a proper AM3 platform v/s the FM1/2.

I deployed a Llano triple core for a student station that talked to a PLC. First of all, it was a desperately needed step forward since the previous box was a 2.8GHz Pentium4 Hyperthreaded on its last legs. A $300 upgrade (board, bug, memory) made the station serviceable again. I hope to do the other five stations before the FM1 parts totally dry up.

After reading the FM2 Trinity preview on Tom's Hardware, I am hopeful about the AM3 Piledrivers being a worthy upgrade for my moderately mighty box.

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6/14/12 at 6:55pm
I recommended my friend do this for his upgrade and for $650 we built him a pretty nice system with an A8-3870k, and a 6770, and an Asus board, and 8GB of GSKILL.

Granted my friend isnt a HUGE gamer (Plays TF2, Saints Row III, HL2, Fallout 3 on occasion) and uses 1280x800 for his resolution so for his needs this suffices and its pretty quick with those speeds. Im a car guy so I'm gonna relate this kinda back to that, his rig pulls a small UHaul with stuff from the attic in it, My rig, I play everything intensive (Crysis 1 and 2, BF3, GTA IV, DiRT 2-3) and use 1080p so a Llano wouldnt cut it, That would be like pulling a trailer house with a Honda Civic, not gonna happen. tongue.gif
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Probably not. I like what the Llano and Trinity parts have to offer though: Good performance and modest power consumption in a single integrated package. To me, these are great platforms for 'casual users' who focus on applications such as web browsing, video playback, flash games, and basic office applications. In other words, a great machine for someone who isn't too tech savvy, and doesn't do a lot of gaming, but needs an everyday computer. No discrete card to worry about, doesn't break the bank in terms of cost or power bills due to lower power consumption requirements. It just works. Another good application might be a home / small office file server due to pretty much the same reasons mentioned above.

It would make a pretty great media PC/HTPC for those reasons too, but to me at least, I guess im cheap but I like to use old hardware for HTPC because I dont like buying new stuff unless its for my rig. My policy is go big or go home biggrin.gif
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6/14/12 at 7:20pm
just a lil clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agJxehoSBmY&feature=relmfu
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For Sale: F/S or F/T GIGABYTE GA-A75-UD4H FM1 AMD A75 and AMD A6-3670K Unlocked Llano 2.7GHz Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core
$1 (USD) or best offer
 
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Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR180GB  SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW  Sony BDUx10 Ibuypower AMD AM3 CPU Watercooling All-in-one s... 
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post #10 of 20
6/14/12 at 7:38pm
With an addition of a discrete video card? No. No point to it. You're basically throwing away over half the APU's value.

Probably the best way to go for a light gaming/work laptop right now though.
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