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6/18/12 at 9:32am
Like if they would go out and scream GUYS WE'VE FOUND 7 ALIENS.
Conspiracy or not it's all about the goverment hiding stuff which is 100% understable. It would create such a mess they would be ready to kill anyone who would speak about it.
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6/18/12 at 9:35am
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I don't really consider myself the usual annoying conspiracy theorist per-say, but I do believe there's more to all of this than just rocks, and yes, I do believe that our government keeps plenty of information about extra-terrestrials/other things like extremely lethal/unbelievable military weapons hidden from the public.


Then you are the usual annoying conspiracy theorist.

I like you mate and you're grand on computers, but seriously? Yeah the government hides stuff, but the government is also made up of people, usually not particularly competent people. They couldn't hide aliens, and the excuses for why they would even want to are honestly pretty feeble.

Well let me rephrase (no offense taken btw...). When I say I am not the "usual annoying conspiracy theorist" I meant that I do not have the arrogant belief that the government is "out to get us," take over the world, hold aliens hostage to steal their technology, etc. I simply have an open mind as to what could be the case, whether it seems like a Hollywood-fetched story or not. Are you saying that it is absolutely impossible that the government(s) are keeping anything from us that is extra-terrestrial? All I'm saying is that it's possible, hence why I don't consider myself to be the typical annoying theorist that swears they are.
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6/18/12 at 9:37am
It's possible, but the default position on something being possible or not when you don't know is not "yes". The default position is, "I don't know" or at most "maybe?"


I don't know about you and maybe you're the exception, but there's a whole lot of people who'll jump straight to "OMG ITS ALIENS THEIR THEIR I KNOW IT YURRRRRRR"





Anyway, as long as you don't claim something is true without supporting evidence then I have no problem.
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6/18/12 at 9:56am
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It is indeed disappointing. There's a huge lack of critical and logical thinking going on in the minds of a lot of people out there. It's disturbing when I look at everybody I meet and come across on a daily basis and find that most are only just educated enough to get a basic job, and even worse they're perfectly fine with how little they know. And I'm in one of the higher educated states as well, I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to have to live in Louisiana. I don't mean to sound conceited or anything, I'm just thoroughly saddened by the whole thing. I wonder what kind of world we would be living in if most people we're intelligent, reasonable, understanding, etc? One can only dream I guess. And just to be clear, it's not that everyone should be required to be educated or smart (or informed on a subject in which you're attempting to make baseless claims), but if you're not, don't pretend to be.
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Every US citizen should be required to take a class in critical thinking or logic....

I think every US citizen should travel more and not make blanket suppositions about enormous groups of people. Louisiana is a wonderful state with wonderful people. They even got dem Universities and stuff! fer duh lerning! Hyuck!

It's not conceited. It's bigoted. Apply some critical thinking to that.
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6/18/12 at 9:56am
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It's possible, but the default position on something being possible or not when you don't know is not "yes". The default position is, "I don't know" or at most "maybe?"
I don't know about you and maybe you're the exception, but there's a whole lot of people who'll jump straight to "OMG ITS ALIENS THEIR THEIR I KNOW IT YURRRRRRR"
Anyway, as long as you don't claim something is true without supporting evidence then I have no problem.

So if the earth is 0,000000001% possible** for life, there are 100% chances that there is somewhere in this universe a planet with life on it

Gotta love those facts wink.gif haha


**Not sure if it's the right term, excuse my native language.
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6/18/12 at 9:59am
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It is indeed disappointing. There's a huge lack of critical and logical thinking going on in the minds of a lot of people out there. It's disturbing when I look at everybody I meet and come across on a daily basis and find that most are only just educated enough to get a basic job, and even worse they're perfectly fine with how little they know. And I'm in one of the higher educated states as well, I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to have to live in Louisiana. I don't mean to sound conceited or anything, I'm just thoroughly saddened by the whole thing. I wonder what kind of world we would be living in if most people we're intelligent, reasonable, understanding, etc? One can only dream I guess. And just to be clear, it's not that everyone should be required to be educated or smart (or informed on a subject in which you're attempting to make baseless claims), but if you're not, don't pretend to be.
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Every US citizen should be required to take a class in critical thinking or logic....

I think every US citizen should travel more and not make blanket suppositions about enormous groups of people. Louisiana is a wonderful state with wonderful people. They even got dem Universities and stuff! fer duh lerning! Hyuck!

It's not conceited. It's bigoted. Apply some critical thinking to that.

Louisiana is the least educated state in the U.S.. I'm not saying it's a horrible place, it's just that if I'm frustrated with the level of education of the people I see day-to-day, and I'm in one of states with the highest levels of college degrees, then I can only imagine how frustrated I would be in the state with the worst level of education. Louisiana also lies the lowest on a couple of other lists, possibly related to the level of education in the state. I'm not saying everyone in Louisiana is uneducated or not intelligent, I'm saying they just have more people like that than any other state.

It's not bigoted, it's statistical fact.
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6/18/12 at 10:18am
I lived in Louisiana for three years.

It does, in fact, suck. Its economy is in the crapper, its education system is not good except for the private universities which cost a fortune, the private elementary and high schools care more about your spiritual balance sheet than your education, the public schools are underfunded, the majority of the population is uneducated, everything's dirty, no one gives a crap about the quality of their work, it's damn hot, and in general it's just a terrible place.
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6/18/12 at 10:21am
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So if the earth is 0,000000001% possible** for life, there are 100% chances that there is somewhere in this universe a planet with life on it
Gotta love those facts wink.gif haha
**Not sure if it's the right term, excuse my native language.


We don't have a way to calculate the probability of life arising on earth, but considering it did so PDQ it's probably *very* likely. So it's very likely that there is life elsewhere in the galaxy. Whether some of that life might be intelligent, whether or not it has space travel, and whether or not it would be interested in / capable of making contact with us? Not enough information.
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6/18/12 at 10:28am
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I think every US citizen should travel more and not make blanket suppositions about enormous groups of people. Louisiana is a wonderful state with wonderful people. They even got dem Universities and stuff! fer duh lerning! Hyuck!
It's not conceited. It's bigoted. Apply some critical thinking to that.

"wonderful" is subjective and provides no indication on education or knowledge levels...
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6/18/12 at 10:31am
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I lived in Louisiana for three years.

It does, in fact, suck. Its economy is in the crapper, its education system is not good except for the private universities which cost a fortune, the private elementary and high schools care more about your spiritual balance sheet than your education, the public schools are underfunded, the majority of the population is uneducated, everything's dirty, no one gives a crap about the quality of their work, it's damn hot, and in general it's just a terrible place.

Jeez and I thought Florida was pretty weak in the educational department. I mean, UM/FIU are pretty good schools (I'm an FIU student) but there is still quite an abundance of professors that just make you dumbfoundedly (is that a real word? Chrome marks it as incorrect) drop your jaw and make you think "How the hell was this guy hired to teach this course?" Sorry for pushing the topic further off...
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