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Are Vizio's TVs any match for Sony's?
They're both involved in televisions and computers now, I'd like to know how they compare.

All things considered, i'd love to know this as well. I've never been a fan of branded computers, but Sony has been launching several nice ones.
   
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Are Vizio's TVs any match for Sony's?
They're both involved in televisions and computers now, I'd like to know how they compare.

Personally I'd rather have a Sony Bravia set then a Vizio if money wasn't an issue. In term of laptops though, The vizios look nice, but I'd have to actually see it to make a comparison. On paper it's a close call, too even to really call, build quality will probably be the deciding factor.
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Are Vizio's TVs any match for Sony's?
They're both involved in televisions and computers now, I'd like to know how they compare.

When set alone Vizio TV's look fine. When placed next to something like a Pioneer, Sony, Mitsubishi, JVC, or Panasonic, you can tell they are the lower end.

I have spent more time than I care dealing with various manufacturers and combing over different products made by those difference manufacturers, inside and out. There are differences!

Let me put it another way, Vizio TV's aren't cheaper because Vizio is nice and doesn't want to make as much money off of you as the other guys. They are cheaper because they are built cheaper, inside and out. Plain and simple. Will they do fine for the average user? Of course, it's just that compared to top tier brands they just can't compete in quality. But they aren't trying to compete in quality, they are trying to compete is market share and they are targeting a very massive customer base; The value customer. The customer that wants something that fits their budget and will do the job right then and there.

Just hope you don't have to deal with their RMA process, I described how that went a few pages back in a previous post.
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I've seen several Vio Laptops...they are no different than any other laptop.

The only think you want to look out for externally in a laptop is the lack of a 10 key section on the key board, and a uni-clicker, or a left/right mouse clicker with no border. Those things are terrible.


Internally....i've seen the inside of a lot of laptops...and Dell is by far the worst. It's not even close. I' ve seen no power issues with Laptops due to the power button, because the wires were not soldered in properly.


Really it's all about specs. A 650 with a 3rd generation i7 in a vio should do the same thing in a Vizio.

I think It's more important to look at the layout of the keyboard, the resolution of the screen and the battery life. when trying to compare laptops.

Hp gets a bad rap for their dv6000 series debacle, but their laptops are high quality now.
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Are Vizio's TVs any match for Sony's?
They're both involved in televisions and computers now, I'd like to know how they compare.


Personally i like my sony tv's better then my fiends vizio's. 

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When set alone Vizio TV's look fine. When placed next to something like a Pioneer, Sony, Mitsubishi, JVC, or Panasonic, you can tell they are the lower end.
I have spent more time than I care dealing with various manufacturers and combing over different products made by those difference manufacturers, inside and out. There are differences!
Let me put it another way, Vizio TV's aren't cheaper because Vizio is nice and doesn't want to make as much money off of you as the other guys. They are cheaper because they are built cheaper, inside and out. Plain and simple. Will they do fine for the average user? Of course, it's just that compared to top tier brands they just can't compete in quality. But they aren't trying to compete in quality, they are trying to compete is market share and they are targeting a very massive customer base; The value customer. The customer that wants something that fits their budget and will do the job right then and there.
Just hope you don't have to deal with their RMA process, I described how that went a few pages back in a previous post.

Okay, first of all, JVC, Mitsubishi, and Panasonic tv's are all terrible. I don't even see those sold in walmart, sears, macy's anywhere (except JVC)

and the only brand worst then JVC is Westinghouse and Akai.

Comparing Vizio to what you said about Sony...as well as Samsung and Phillips, the quality difference may have been true about 5 years ago...but today, Their tv's are right in line with Samsung Quality...maybe a little lower. Sony isn't even really in the TV biz anymore, as far as retailing in places like Sam's cllub, Costco and Sears.

Today, vizio's quality is top notch, up their with the big brands. And as far as Cheap parts....ehh, wrong.

I work in a repair shop, and we get tv's every day. We always get Samsungs, and JVC and Akai...but we never get Sony (LCD) or Vizio.


I used to tell people back in the day never to buy vizio because 4 years ago they were going to make me pay for shipping after a monitor went out after 3 weeks. I told them to kiss my you know what and brung it back to the store.

But now, they usually don't make you pay for shipping...or so they tell me. But their warranty says it's their discretion.

In conclusion...if you didn't get the 55'' or 46'' 3d tv's with the glossy screen from 5 months ago you missed out. I've never seen a tv so highly rated by customers. They really are a good company now.
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When set alone Vizio TV's look fine. When placed next to something like a Pioneer, Sony, Mitsubishi, JVC, or Panasonic, you can tell they are the lower end.
I have spent more time than I care dealing with various manufacturers and combing over different products made by those difference manufacturers, inside and out. There are differences!
Let me put it another way, Vizio TV's aren't cheaper because Vizio is nice and doesn't want to make as much money off of you as the other guys. They are cheaper because they are built cheaper, inside and out. Plain and simple. Will they do fine for the average user? Of course, it's just that compared to top tier brands they just can't compete in quality. But they aren't trying to compete in quality, they are trying to compete is market share and they are targeting a very massive customer base; The value customer. The customer that wants something that fits their budget and will do the job right then and there.
Just hope you don't have to deal with their RMA process, I described how that went a few pages back in a previous post.

Actually the Vizio's with the Full Array LED where some of the best rated TV's out there. You could get a top rated Full Array LED w/ Local dimming in 42" and 47" for $1800 or less. Which was a great deal.

They however don't make those models anymore confused.gif
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Okay, first of all, JVC, Mitsubishi, and Panasonic tv's are all terrible. I don't even see those sold in walmart, sears, macy's anywhere (except JVC)
and the only brand worst then JVC is Westinghouse and Akai.
Comparing Vizio to what you said about Sony...as well as Samsung and Phillips, the quality difference may have been true about 5 years ago...but today, Their tv's are right in line with Samsung Quality...maybe a little lower. Sony isn't even really in the TV biz anymore, as far as retailing in places like Sam's cllub, Costco and Sears.
Today, vizio's quality is top notch, up their with the big brands. And as far as Cheap parts....ehh, wrong.
I work in a repair shop, and we get tv's every day. We always get Samsungs, and JVC and Akai...but we never get Sony (LCD) or Vizio.
I used to tell people back in the day never to buy vizio because 4 years ago they were going to make me pay for shipping after a monitor went out after 3 weeks. I told them to kiss my you know what and brung it back to the store.
But now, they usually don't make you pay for shipping...or so they tell me. But their warranty says it's their discretion.
In conclusion...if you didn't get the 55'' or 46'' 3d tv's with the glossy screen from 5 months ago you missed out. I've never seen a tv so highly rated by customers. They really are a good company now.

Wait, did you just use what TV's are sold in a big box store as a gauge of quality? By that standard Pioneer must be terrible as well?

I will also point out I never mentioned Phillips, anything produced by Funai Corporation should be ran away from...this includes Phillips, Magnavox, Emerson, and Slyvania. Which are all the same product manufactured by Funai and sold under different names.

The reason you don't see Mitsubishi, JVC, Pioneer, etc, sold in Wal-Mart and other big box stores is because the big box stores can't sell them at an attractive price point for the average customer. In order to find these TV's you typically have to go into an electronics boutique, although I think Best Buy was carrying some of the lower end models from the top brands.
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Actually the Vizio's with the Full Array LED where some of the best rated TV's out there. You could get a top rated Full Array LED w/ Local dimming in 42" and 47" for $1800 or less. Which was a great deal.
They however don't make those models anymore confused.gif

The issue with a lot of these ratings is that they are pretty anecdotal at best; Typically it is some "tech journalist" that compares specs off the side of the box, then sets them up and looks at picture quality. They then say why they do or do not like the quality, etc, etc. I have never seen an actual review that tears down the sets and looks at the internal quality of them, comparing inside and out.

Funny enough I have seen people walk up to televisions and go "Yup! That one looks WAAAAY better", when the video source was composite, while the one next to it was running at Full HD. Why do they do this? Brand recognition and loyalty. Kind of like how people believe a Monster HDMI cable makes the picture look better than any other certified HDMI cable.
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