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I hate this downloading crap... I do things I shouldn't BUT BUT BUT remember the "old" cassette tapes??!??!?? That's the same DAMN thing! If I press record on my tape it's the same friggin thing as hitting burn in NERO... Only thing is I wasn't listining to the radio at that time. Sure I've heard it on the radio before but since I don't have a tape I can't get it at that time. So I get on my limewire and get it. Just like pressing record... This pisses me off... Video tape recorders weren't illegal. Yet still people went and rented movies and put them on big "LP" tapes that you could fit 3 movies on... What the hell is the damn difference here tards!!!???!!! I hate this stupid topic just let us get this stuff, and ****.
Just my 2 pennies I guess I owe record companies and movie tycoons...
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Originally Posted by Fusion Racing
yes id have to agree, 3-4GB of downloading takes a while on my craptacular broadband

*note you didnt just read that^^*

quite funny though how he hardly got any punishment for it. a $3000 fine and 10 months of prison/house arrest isnt that bad, i thought it would have been alot worse
Yea like a couple 100k and atleast 2-3 years.
post #23 of 48
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Originally Posted by ElMikeTheMike
I would just plead entrapment. It's all out there and there's nothign stopping you from getting it. It's like a mouse trap. And I'm pretty sure that would hold up to some degree.

Entrapment requires the police/FBI/ATF/Law Enforecment to corerce you into doing something illegal that you would not have normally done. Standing on the corner encouraging you to jay-walk while you are just waiting for the light then writing a citation is entrapment. Telling you he is not a cop as you look around with the intention of jay-walking then writing a citation when you do is not entrapment.

Now, violation of the unlawful search and seizure law should hold up, since they have no way of finding you unless they troll ISPs and look for someone breaking the law, which IS illegal. Where the grey area comes in is the ISPs are willfully handing over the information when asked.


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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE1701
Well i dont think it will ever stop. You cant stop filesharing. The Internet Network is too large.
No doubt....even if they managed to shut down every bit torrorent site in the world, illegal file sharing would still exist through person to person and close knit group sharing. I sent some pictures to a buddy last night through GoogleTalk......could have just as easily been a song or even a movie.

Their best weapon against lost profits is to produce something worth buying. While piracy is still wrong, Fusion has a good point. It's not like stealing a loaf of bread, where that loaf can no longer be sold. If a person downloads a song, or a movie, or a book, it in no way hinders the company from selling that product to someone who wants it. And if that person never intended to buy that item in the first place, there is no lost income.

Piracy is wrong, and it is theft......but the logic of the MPAA and RIAA in blaming piracy for their slumping sales is like sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring the greater problem.
post #24 of 48
stupid admin. got busted, wow, i download music, i download eveything (warez). its the internet! u almost cant be caught (with proper tools). i will never be caught!!

*Hears sirens in the distance and someone shouting "police"!
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As long as the prices are ridiculous high, i will keep downloading. Nobody can stop me and i never felt guilty about it. It's not illegal in here anyway. It's not even illegal to crack and use U.S. Tv satellite
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Originally Posted by jigglylizard
I go see movies when they come out (i love the whole experience) and I buy music albums that I like. However, I feel bad renting a movie to watch alone (my friends and I never agree on a choice) for $5+ at Blockbuster. Blockbuster also put my dad out of the video rental business, so I hate encouraging them. However they're the only ones in my town.

I torrent what I think is unreasonable. I love PC games, but at $50+ tax each, that's $57.50 to $70 for a game each (15% sales tax in Quebec). It's kind of ridiculous, even considering minimum wage is $7.60.

Hence, I just buy the games after I play them alot OR if I really,really want it.

Edit: Then again it's not illegal in Canada Another reason why we own
Nope, it's illegal in Canada too. Only a few places where it isn't illegal and even then it isn't legal to take it out of those countries.

But I completely agree with the guy above me. We aren't actually stealing anything. Now if someone managed to get their hands on someones unpublished book or something and got it published themselves. That would indeed be stealing.

Edit: And btw, my friend was caught for sharing Spider Man the movie on some program like limeware years ago when it first came out. His ISP just shut down his service till he promised not to do it again. Going from what they said it's completely legal to download it. It just isn't legal to share it. However, if noone shares there will be nothing to download which becomes the point.
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post #27 of 48
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As long as the prices are ridiculous high, i will keep downloading. Nobody can stop me and i never felt guilty about it. It's not illegal in here anyway. It's not even illegal to crack and use U.S. Tv satellite

MMMmmm Canada... Land of the copyright infringment... Anyone got a spare bedroom?!?
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post #28 of 48
"knowledge is power". I saw some guy at bestbuy buying some spyware remover app. for $50, and i was laughing in my mind because i just downloaded the full version of that app. the day before and it works flawlessly. thats the advantage of downloading, but if ur someone famous and big i.e CEO then downloading stuff like that is not the smart choice, but if ur like a 14 year old kid in ur grandma's basement downloading tetris delux then i RECOMMEND it to u.
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post #29 of 48
Like said before. I would not go out and buy the cd if I didn't DL it. NAD half the time I only like a couple songs off the CD. So I find it kind f dumd and ridiculous to pay !2-16 for a CD that I really only like half of it.
And they sit here and talk about DLing music and crap as illegal, but yet they sell DVR's and crap like that, and DVD Burner, that will burn live tv to a cd. How is that any different. I mean I could record a whole season of a TV show, and then burn it to DVD's instead of boing out and buying the season. Which is what I would do, if I had one of those DVD burner, because they charge like $60 or more for the stupid things. They sit here and say DLing is illegal, bu they keep making electronics that make it easier to more "illegal" things. Just plain stupid.
They didn't plan this, because they messed up when the first came out with CD burners. Because it first started out that you would buy the CD, and then just burn it for your friends. They didn't pay for it, so no money was made. Its the same thing with sharing the music over the internet. Stupid FBI and Government.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyHeaven
Nope, it's illegal in Canada too. Only a few places where it isn't illegal and even then it isn't legal to take it out of those countries.

But I completely agree with the guy above me. We aren't actually stealing anything. Now if someone managed to get their hands on someones unpublished book or something and got it published themselves. That would indeed be stealing.

Edit: And btw, my friend was caught for sharing Spider Man the movie on some program like limeware years ago when it first came out. His ISP just shut down his service till he promised not to do it again. Going from what they said it's completely legal to download it. It just isn't legal to share it. However, if noone shares there will be nothing to download which becomes the point.
Friend told me that a few years ago, that you couldn't get in trouble as long as your weren't sharing any files, but could DL whatever you wanted.
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