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I'd take the WD to be safe. Seagate isn't worth your money, not at all.
Hitachi drives are tanks but they tend to be quite slow compared to WD.

I am a proud owner of over 20 WD drives. None have failed. The oldest one has been in use for 48,529 hours to be exact. Its a WD800JD.
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@Kramy, thats a real shame that seagate ruined the sammies frown.gif
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Originally Posted by DZSlasher View Post

I personally use this hard drive and it works great. It is fast an it is 1TB. When I was building my computer, this hard drive was recommended by many members. It is made by Samsung which is brand that you like based upon your posts.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
that looks decent. but is there anything more recent? sata 6.0 Gb/s
looks like i'm closing in on a hitachi or samsung.
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Keep in mind the dates of these complaints. Things are constantly shifting.
Hitachi deskstar complaints are probably old ones. I've got numerous Hitachi externals that are all working properly, and have been setting them up for local businesses. No issues so far. That said, I have no experience with Hitachi's 1TB 7K1000.D drive, which uses a 1TB platter.
The Seagate 1-egg reviews ("DOA" or "Died within x Months") are very new, indicating that a higher than average percentage of people are experiencing early failure with Seagate's new drives.
Samsung drives had great reliability and reviews, but now they're being manufactured by Seagate in China. The name and model are the same, but they are different and more unreliable drives! mad.gif By doing this they capitalize off older 5-star reviews - but if you look at the recent ones, there are far too many 1-egg reviews. Also, the warranty was slashed by Seagate to 1 year.
So what you're left with is WD... with their typical good reliability and warranty. You want something reliable, so probably a WD Black 1TB. But that's still no guarantee that it'll stay working. My advice - if you're worried about a drive failing, buy two. It's not that hard setting up daily backups.
Nope. Totally different factories now - more problems are being reported, just months after they started producing these new ones.
I do like that they sell you 1 year of data recovery service for $0.99. biggrin.gif
Oh - NCIX actually has them quite a bit cheaper:
http://us.ncix.com/promo/?webid=USfathersday2012#Hard%20Drives
My preferred drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533 - $99
The 5-year warranty is worth it to me.
i want a hitachi but that hdd you recommended is rated even lower than the seagates and wd lol...
    
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WD Greens are cheap and match Seagate 7200.12's. Come in 1/2/3TB.

HDD Speed, Seagate 7.2k v WD Green.png 2832k .png file
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5034/seagate-introduces-new-1tbperplatter-barracuda-solid-state-hybrid-version-coming
Take a look at the Seagate 1tb per platter ones, I've had good experiences with them and they are decently fast.
There's not really all that big a selection right now. It's either Western Digital, Hitachi or Seagate.

More like just Western Digital and Seagate. WD bought Hitachi storage recently.

I agree with Kramy the WD1002FAEX is a great drive, and proven reliability. Western Digitals RMA is also the best in the industry in my opinion. They send you a refurb drive first so you can stick your old drive into the box and ship it back to them. Costs nothing because there's already a prepaid label on it to return the old, broken drive.
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You really only have 2 choices. Seagate or Western Digital. They pretty much own everything on the 3.5" side of things. I vote for WD because of their fantastic customer service. Their RMA process is completely painless (especially their advance rma). If you want a large drive greater than 1TB, then I recommend a green or black WD drive. Max for green is 3TB, black is 2TB and blue is 1TB. Black drives are the most reliable with green and blue being slightly behind but still darn reliable. It all depends on your budget and storage requirements. I had all 2TB green drives until one of mine failed. The return was very quick and easy and they gave me back a 2TB black drive so it's a very nice upgrade and I'd always go WD until they give me a reason not to.
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WD Greens are not that bad nowadays. IIRC they used to be 5400RPM drives, then WD had a brainwave and then gave them a variable motor speed - 5400RPM at idle and 7200RPM at load.

A Black is still far quicker though, and it does seem that Blacks are more reliable.

WD's RMA is the best as well; they send you upgraded drives for free.

I had a clicking 500GB Blue, some klutz dropped it and in 3 days a 1TB Blue came back. Then another klutz dropped it; and it came back as a 1TB Black.

Not trying to abuse the system here, but seriously I've never seen RMA services this good. Will continue to buy WD for me as well as all my customers.
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come on hitachi and samsung guys... dont let me pull the trigger on a wd black. i don't want to...
    
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I like Samsung drives but thats only because I had an old 250gb one that I dropped in a pool and its still works over 2 years later
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I personally use this hard drive and it works great. It is fast an it is 1TB. When I was building my computer, this hard drive was recommended by many members. It is made by Samsung which is brand that you like based upon your posts.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
By the way, don't just go off the number of eggs. You should take some time to read some recent reviews.

I don't know what Seagate is thinking, capitalizing off all those older 5-egg reviews. Everyone threw a fit when OCZ did that, keeping the same model number for new parts.

Anyway, reviews which make me worry:
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3 eggs - Ordered three drives for RAID, one failed within 24hrs. RMA's with Newegg, waiting for replacement. I just hope it was a fluke and the replacement drive will not fail on me.
Effectively DOA.
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5 eggs - I have been using two of these drives in a RAID 1 configuration for over two years now, and so far, so great. Excellent drives.
Recent review, but irrelevant to what you're buying now - they're no longer manufactured by Samsung.
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4 eggs - After building a RAID 1 with the drives, it showed impacted performance. Ran vendor's diagnostics on the drives and one of them repeatedly fails it but still seems to function fine - one egg off for this because now I have to see if I can repair or RMA the drive.
What I'd call "DOA" - requires immediate RMA.
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5 eggs - tried to do a full format and not a quick format and it didn't work so i did quick one after that and it was fine. ill never know if all of the sectors are perfect but its been fine so far.
It would probably fail a SMART test if he bothered to run one. Probably DOA.
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3 eggs - I have bought about a dozen of these in the past few years, 3 of them have failed within 6 months. Outside of the Newegg return window, there is nothing you can do about it. Samsung won't honor the warranty because they say it is OEM and it is Newegg's responsability. Newegg says the warranty is provided by Samsung, so it's not their responsability. Back when the drives were cheap, I didn't mind so much, but paying more than double what they used to be isn't my cup of tea when dead drives aren't getting replaced.
And that's the most worrying one of all. The warranty has been slashed, so if you do have issues, there isn't really a company standing behind their product...
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@Kramy, thats a real shame that seagate ruined the sammies frown.gif
Yeah, it is. frown.gif


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that looks decent. but is there anything more recent? sata 6.0 Gb/s
FYI, SATA3 (6gbps) doesn't mean much for HDDs. Most drives have sequential performance around 100-200MB/sec; SATA2's limit is about 286MiB/sec, and SATA3 is double that... plenty of headroom for current drives.
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i want a hitachi but that hdd you recommended is rated even lower than the seagates and wd lol...
I think you misread my post. I recommended the WD1002FAEX. I cautioned you against the 7K1000.D. I've been avoiding them based on reviews and word of mouth. It uses 1TB platters (like the new Seagates), and since it's been out longer, we can see that they have more issues...
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WD Greens are cheap and match Seagate 7200.12's. Come in 1/2/3TB.

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I must admit, the EARX drives are speed-demons for 5400RPM Greens. Their access times resemble non-WD 7200RPM drives. (WD's 7200RPM drives are usually around 12-13.5ms access times, but other brands are usually 13-16ms - the EARX drives are somewhere in the middle of that range.)
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Originally Posted by dmasteR View Post

I agree with Kramy the WD1002FAEX is a great drive, and proven reliability. Western Digitals RMA is also the best in the industry in my opinion. They send you a refurb drive first so you can stick your old drive into the box and ship it back to them. Costs nothing because there's already a prepaid label on it to return the old, broken drive.
I'm in Canada, so I didn't have that option the first time I had to RMA to them. It cost about $15 to mail off two Greens 2TB to Ontario. (Would've been $8-12 to California, but they don't allow that...)

I sent off two original EARS Greens - WD sent me back two brand new EARX drives, manufactured 2-3 weeks prior. My two failed Greens may have been damaged by their odd upside-down orientation, or perhaps they were just fated to fail as so many launch-batches are.
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Originally Posted by Cha0s_Cha0 View Post

I had all 2TB green drives until one of mine failed. The return was very quick and easy and they gave me back a 2TB black drive so it's a very nice upgrade and I'd always go WD until they give me a reason not to.
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Brand new, right? Not refurb? biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Volvo View Post

WD Greens are not that bad nowadays. IIRC they used to be 5400RPM drives, then WD had a brainwave and then gave them a variable motor speed - 5400RPM at idle and 7200RPM at load.
Actually, they're still 5400RPM. Intellipower is just marketing speak, since it's hard to advertise "SMARTER FIRMWARE!" wink.gif

They fixed the firmware issues that caused them to sometimes miss a seek. If a 5400RPM drive doesn't seek to a spot in time, it has to wait 11.11ms for the platter to spin around again to that spot. The number of missed or slow seeks pulled up the EARS access times, but the EARX drives fixed that.

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Yellow dots represent a random read, which involves seeking to somewhere and reading the file. The EARS drive was bad for seeking too slow, and then waiting a full revolution. The EARX drive does not have that weakness.
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Originally Posted by Volvo View Post

WD's RMA is the best as well; they send you upgraded drives for free.

I had a clicking 500GB Blue, some klutz dropped it and in 3 days a 1TB Blue came back. Then another klutz dropped it; and it came back as a 1TB Black.

Not trying to abuse the system here, but seriously I've never seen RMA services this good. Will continue to buy WD for me as well as all my customers.
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I never got any drive upgrades out of my RMAs (except for EARS to EARX), but I was impressed that they transferred over my warranty plus 6 months extra. When I checked the serial number on my replacements, they end about 4-6 months later than the ones I sent in. I guess my Greens have 3.5 year multi-use warranties. biggrin.gif


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