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post #61 of 137
6/17/12 at 4:16am
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This argument is entirely ridiculous. Why is the 680 called mid range? Mid range implies there's something above it-- there isn't. The fabled GK100 never came to market, and may have never even seen the light of day. The decision to make GK104 the flagship Geforce card was made long before Nvidia knew of Tahiti.


As for AMD releasing the Ghz edition, I don't see how they're ripping off their customers. The 28nm process is simply maturing, and they're able to make higher clocked cards now than they were in December of 2011. Intel and AMD release new steppings of CPUs all the time, but no one seems to make an argument against it. Because pushing more mature fab processes just makes sense.

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post #62 of 137
6/17/12 at 5:32am
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Gtx680 - 1212 Mhz core
7970 - 1165 Mhz core
At the same clocks, witch is better?

And the same clocks matter why? 2 different companies, 2 completely different chips.
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Haha nvidia gets owned!

Is that few extra mhz going to let the 7970 run PhysX 3.0 on the new Arma3 engine? rolleyes.gif

Yeah wait till the Lightning and Classified are out. Many of the reference 680s are at least close to 1300mhz, so wait till someone starts giving these chips more than 1.175v.

And who said the 680s don't run cooler? In SLI @ 1285mhz mine have no problem staying below 70C.
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6/17/12 at 6:26am
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Implications for the gamer

We deliberately use very high-quality settings in our games that are expressly designed to exact the greatest toll on the GPUs. GeForce GTX 680 and Radeon HD 7970 are both consummate performers at the full-HD, 1,920x1,080 resolution common on many monitors.

Playing through the games shows us that it's actually very difficult to categorically say that one GPU is significantly faster than the other; a Radeon HD 7970's performance feels like a GTX 680's.

And this feeling is reinforced in the crazy-resolution (2,560x1,600) numbers. Such is the load at this setting that even these high-end monsters begin to buckle; we notice the occasional slowdown and lack of silky-smooth rendering.

The GeForce GTX 680 is the fastest single-GPU card around and nothing we've witnessed in this editorial changes our view of that fact. It's also faster, on average, than a same-clocked HD 7970, though it's almost close enough to call it a draw.

GeForce GTX 680 has been lavished with bombastic praise since its arrival last week. Most of this is deserved, because it is a mighty fine high-end GPU. Our numbers and real-world playing also tell us that it would be foolish to dismiss the Radeon HD 7970, for it's also a very good enthusiast-orientated card.

The corollary of this evaluation is startlingly simple: one cannot buy a bad high-end card right now. Yet spending £400 on a single graphics card entails making a hard choice. Knowing what we do and having played game after game and seen more benchmark results than are advisable, our advice would be to opt for the GeForce GTX 680, unless your particular game du jour happens to run better on Radeon hardware.
@ the same clocks it really comes down to which games you play. The reason why reviews like this vary so much is because of the game selection. Coming from 7970's, I feel that the 680 is faster, but that's just my opinion. Most of these guys posting silly stuff like "owned" are just cheerleaders that can't afford the hardware anyway, so how would they know which was better? rolleyes.gif
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post #64 of 137
6/17/12 at 6:31am
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And the same clocks matter why? 2 different companies, 2 completely different chips.
Is that few extra mhz going to let the 7970 run PhysX 3.0 on the new Arma3 engine? rolleyes.gif
Yeah wait till the Lightning and Classified are out. Many of the reference 680s are at least close to 1300mhz, so wait till someone starts giving these chips more than 1.175v.
And who said the 680s don't run cooler? In SLI @ 1285mhz mine have no problem staying below 70C.
Nope. And the reason a lot of people(AMD guys) hate it is because they don't have the option to run it...rolleyes.gif

PhysX is very demanding, but I ALWAYS enable it anyway. Batman was like a totally new game when I fired it up on my 680's vs when I was playing it on my 7970 cfx system.



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post #65 of 137
6/17/12 at 6:34am
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Pritty much the same as always.
680> 7970 in bf3 and skyrim
7970 >avp and a few others.
Proven clock for clock and stock clocks etc.
The 7970 lost EVERY bench except AVP. rolleyes.gif I'm still not seeing the "few others" you saw in this review. (The Hexus review)
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post #66 of 137
6/17/12 at 6:55am
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So hexus tested the 7970 at 1006mhz with RC11? Interesting diversion from the Xbit labs review bro, wink.gif

The speeds are pretty comparable to be honest, like you said it depends greatly on what applications/games you run.
Edited by xoleras - 6/17/12 at 6:58am
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post #67 of 137
6/17/12 at 7:32am
There have been how may driver releases for both cards since the Hexus review? The Xbitlabs is from a couple of days ago. Old results from 3 months ago matter not in the face of the new. Hexus' results are now irrelevant so what are they supposed to show? Are they being used to debunk newer, and as such, more relevant info like how things compare today? Let's not forget the kepler boost, which isnt accounted for with the 7970's clock speeds in that or any review. Everybody had their party when the 680 launched. Now that it's over, just accept the objective reality of the situation.
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post #68 of 137
6/17/12 at 7:34am
Id have accepted the hexus review if the 7970 was at the 680s average boost clock. But no. It's in it's base clock.

Sent w/ a 670.
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When they're "basically" even, here's how you decide:
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6/17/12 at 7:46am
any eta on nvidia cards which will enable voltage control?
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