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post #141 of 319
6/28/12 at 11:29pm
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To the gentleman requesting backlight bleed examples. It was really hard to get what seems to be an accurate representation via camera. It comes out blue and looks more pronounced that in real life, but I played with the curves until it looked about right when viewed on my monitor at least.
Below are three images.

Thank you and repped. Seems about the same as mine then maybe a little bit better but I think I am attributing some of it to the IPS glow.
btw do you notice a glow towards the bottom right and left even when you are sitting directly in front of them. Like a slight lighter(kinda yellowish glow(subtle) to colors at the lower right and left?
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post #142 of 319
6/29/12 at 1:07am
Mine has pretty much the exact same bleed as the first pic, only the top middle right.

BCC got in touch with regards to my defects, and has offered $70 as a refund.

That makes my monitor only £180 delivered!! And I have a 3 year Square-Trade warranty.

Dead pixels are near the edges, so I don't actually notice them with normal usage and am very happy with this!

I'd probably be able to claim on my Square-Trade in a few years too for the pixels, mwhahaha.
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post #143 of 319
6/29/12 at 6:16am
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Thank you and repped. Seems about the same as mine then maybe a little bit better but I think I am attributing some of it to the IPS glow.
btw do you notice a glow towards the bottom right and left even when you are sitting directly in front of them. Like a slight lighter(kinda yellowish glow(subtle) to colors at the lower right and left?

There will always be some glow in a normal display. If it's visible when you're not viewing something dark though, that may indicate a problem*. IPS monitors have a better viewing angle than say TN do, but slight color shifting will be unavoidable. Ever since I parted ways with my last CRT in 2006, I've been using MVA, PVA, and later IPS displays. They all seem to do it to varying degrees. It's important to make note of if the problem is glow, bleed, or uneven LCD response. I saw at least one person in one of the other threads reporting an issue where half of his panel was tinted toward a different color (green or blue I believe) which would indicate a clear defect. It's also worth pointing out that in my image, not ever light area is bleed. Some are bleed and some are glow. It's minimal regardless and I never notice it outside of when I'm testing for it.

* Problem may consist of defects like a bad panel or defects like using a TN display. Zing! biggrin.gif
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post #144 of 319
6/29/12 at 8:05am
Glow is inevitable due to how LCDs work - The panel is actively blocking light, and frankly it's not all that good at it.

Bleed is caused by physical gaps around the edges of the panel where light can seep through (as opposed to through the panel, where it's supposed to go).

A perfect LCD panel would display even glow across the entire panel when displaying black. Uniform brightness is good, splotches of light = bad.

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post #145 of 319
6/29/12 at 9:29am
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Mine has pretty much the exact same bleed as the first pic, only the top middle right.
BCC got in touch with regards to my defects, and has offered $70 as a refund.
That makes my monitor only £180 delivered!! And I have a 3 year Square-Trade warranty.
Dead pixels are near the edges, so I don't actually notice them with normal usage and am very happy with this!
I'd probably be able to claim on my Square-Trade in a few years too for the pixels, mwhahaha.

Not if you're from the UK, as your use of £ suggested. Squaretrade doesn't cover the UK.
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post #146 of 319
6/29/12 at 9:35am
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Not if you're from the UK, as your use of £ suggested. Squaretrade doesn't cover the UK.
Not only that, but read the terms and conditions:
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WHAT IS NOT COVERED:

TELEVISION OR PERSONAL COMPUTER MONITOR SCREEN IMPERFECTIONS, INCUDING "BURN-IN" OR BURNED CRT PHOSPHOR;

PROJECTOR OR REAR PROJECTION TV BULBS UNLESS THAT SPECIFIC COVERAGE HAS BEEN PURCHASED WITH YOUR SERVICE AGREEMENT;

DAMAGED OR DEFECTIVE LCD SCREENS WHEN THE FAILURE IS CAUSED BY ABUSE OR IS OTHERWISE EXCLUDED HEREIN;

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Waiting Period: This is the amount of time from the Service Agreement Purchase Date during which if any issues occur, they are considered pre-existing conditions and render the item ineligible for coverage under this Service Agreement.

So basically, if you DO get a failure in the first 45 or 60 days (whatever the waiting period is) or the item arrives with ANY defect (including dead pixels, according to some of their representatives), you are ineligible for coverage under the SquareTrade warranty for anything.
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post #147 of 319
6/29/12 at 10:10am
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Not only that, but read the terms and conditions:
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WHAT IS NOT COVERED:
TELEVISION OR PERSONAL COMPUTER MONITOR SCREEN IMPERFECTIONS, INCUDING "BURN-IN" OR BURNED CRT PHOSPHOR;
PROJECTOR OR REAR PROJECTION TV BULBS UNLESS THAT SPECIFIC COVERAGE HAS BEEN PURCHASED WITH YOUR SERVICE AGREEMENT;
DAMAGED OR DEFECTIVE LCD SCREENS WHEN THE FAILURE IS CAUSED BY ABUSE OR IS OTHERWISE EXCLUDED HEREIN;
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Waiting Period: This is the amount of time from the Service Agreement Purchase Date during which if any issues occur, they are considered pre-existing conditions and render the item ineligible for coverage under this Service Agreement.
So basically, if you DO get a failure in the first 45 or 60 days (whatever the waiting period is) or the item arrives with ANY defect (including dead pixels, according to some of their representatives), you are ineligible for coverage under the SquareTrade warranty for anything.

Just claim that it all happened after 60 days. problem fixed thumb.gif

(and actually... it's 46 days after you purchased the item)
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post #148 of 319
6/29/12 at 10:13am
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Just claim that it all happened after 60 days. problem fixed thumb.gif
I'm not in the business of fraud, and also it's even harder to hide if you have a financial trail of a partial refund from the seller for a known defect.
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post #149 of 319
6/29/12 at 10:22am
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I'm not in the business of fraud, and also it's even harder to hide if you have a financial trail of a partial refund from the seller for a known defect.

^ this thumb.gif

oh... I jumped in on this thread late... You should never accept a partial refund for a known defect. It invalidates the warranty.
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6/29/12 at 6:08pm
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Are those standard PC screws (coarse or fine thread?)? Hard to tell from the pictures. I just got three of these and disassembled them to remove the stands, I guess they're coming back apart to add screws.
If we can identify exactly what they are I'd love to order a bag of them so I can fully populate all three.
Viper GTS

Thats definately a smarter way to do it. I tried using one of the case screws and one of them broke inside the hole. frown.gif I don't know how this will affect things, should the monitor die and I need to return it for a refund
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