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There is a huge section of the commercial market that uses platter drives.I am talking 70+ drives in one frame,costing 200,000 or more(from IBM).This size of an investment is not going away anytime soon. What I find amazing is that RAID technology is still in use.This tech became available at least 25 years ago and is still in use today.I certainly would have thought that either drive reliability would have made the need for RAID obselete,or a entirely new technique would have been developed, not the case at all.If platter drives are available for commercial use there will be a bleed down to the lower level storage applications.
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post #32 of 69
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They may be "greedy corporate bastards" but only a fool would think that the SSD industry is full of any different characters. Another strangely flawed medium with a "short" lifespan. SSDs aren't bad but they're not really as great as people make them out to be.


Yes they are actually. That is why I got 2.
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post #33 of 69
Long term I expect the SSD's be cheaper than hard disks, as the SSD is considerably simpler device. Electronicically the complexity is roughly equal but mechanical simplicity has considerable potential for price drops. If a country is capable of producing hard disks it's also capable of putting a man in the orbit and bring it back down alive.

Ofc hard disks will be quite a niche somewhere before the price per Gb gets equal.

Just get an 6x 2.5'' to 1x 5.25'' SATA backplate and you can already have pretty good data density even with SSD's although the price is still too high for desktop use at that scale.
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post #34 of 69
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People don't seem to realise that HDD's are still advancing at a considerable rate. I mean soon we will be able to buy 4TB drives. My new Seagate "1TB per platter" drive is twice as fast as any drive I bought 5 years ago, the same goes for any new Hatachi or WD drive I would presume.
I've built at least 4 computers for friends and associates over the past couple months, the general storage configuration is a 128gb SSD + 1tb HDD. Where the 1tb drive would be used for steam games and still give almost nill difference in performance. I tell them only to install the few most commonly played games on their SSD's.
I think that's what we will start to see more and more, the only difference is that as technology advances it will probably be simply larger sizes. 512gb SSD + 5TB HDD storage drive anyone?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145563
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For home use data storage there's really no point in SSDs right now. They're better in every way except storage capacity.
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Convergence of the two mediums have to get better and will likely offer a more compelling business case for them. Seagate, AFAIK, is the only HDD maker that has combined flash storage with optics to get a unique product like the Momentus XT and of course Intel offering SSD caching on their Z68 chipsets. The performance has to get better, though. Hybrid drives don't come close to stand-alone SSDs. I think hybrids are the future. Can you imagine a 2TB platter with a 128GB SSD attached to it.

20nm seems to be the end of profitability with silicon

Hybrids are still faster than any hdd on the market. Boot times and loading times for applications and games are also much faster and for the average gamer, loading time wont be that far off from SSD. Also the seagate momentus xt 500gb+4gb nand @ newegg is currently $90 FS, that is $0.18/Gb!!
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post #37 of 69
In the process of going pure SSD. (or SSD's in my case)
never looking back.... biggrin.gif

I dont see the day any time soon when everything will be SSD only.
HDD's are/will always be needed at least for the foreseeable future.
I guess in the future we will see the opposite to what is now, as there are more HDD>SSD. say 90% to 10%
but should be interesting, who knows. maybe another tech will come along, actually I am sure of it.
    
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HDDs will still live for people with large storage requirements for a home server.
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For home use data storage there's really no point in SSDs right now. They're better in every way except storage capacity.

Depends on how much data you need to store. With HDDs there always the risk of mechanical failure since it has moving parts.. whereas with SSDs, heck they ship them to you in a bubble mailer. Drop it all you want, you aren't going to lose that data.

Theoretically if I had something super-duper-important I'd probably write the data to an SSD, and throw it in a safety deposit box thumb.gif
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With USB 3.0 coming standard on laptops and new PCs there's simply no point in having an internal HDD now. A single 1TB external USB 3.0 drive will store anything most people need across of their devices while still maxing the performance of the drive. Once 256GB SSDs hit the $150 or so mark it'll be pointless to use anything else because the performance hit will be too large. The HDD is going to go the way of the tape drive.
    
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