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Just on a side note, for how many months before release was C2D compared to whatever AMD had

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post #52 of 148
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Remember guys, you can flame and bash AMD Quad or Intels Kentsfield as much as you want, but its the actual performance and benchmarks, not hearsay that matters
You say that with a straight face in a thread about a CPU that hasn't even been cut from the silicon yet?

By the way, I know your comment wasn't directed specifically at me or my comment, but it is possible to express caution or concern without it being a flame. Personally, I see no reason to argue for or against AMD's quad-core since, as already stated, it is still just plans on a piece of paper.

When the first test chips start to hit the streets, then we can discuss the benchmarks and actual performance. Until then, it's all theoretical and hearsay, and an excercise in futility.
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*cough* AMD PWNS *cough*
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lol and you own an Intel system
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Yeah well its old and wasnt my choice,
Besides my next rig will be X2 3800+
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Yeah well its old and wasnt my choice,
Besides my next rig will be X2 3800+
Why not a Core 2 Duo... they're not much more expensive And you'll need DDR2 for AM2 anyways (I hope you're not choosing socket 939...)
    
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lol this article is all speculation.....
right now amd has no four core and neither does intel
all we can do is wait

oh and BTW Chozart whats so bad about skt939? its tried and true
    
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But offers no upgrade path whatsoever, esp. since CPU production stops soon.

Intel Quad Core (Kentsfield) can already be pre-ordered, and benchmarks can be found already. For AMD, that's not the case.

Yes, there were months of comparison with AMD before Core 2 Duo was released. Why? Since there were plenty of early production models out, so benchmarks were available early in the game. This was a smart move from Intel, since it made us all drool.

AMD should drop some of their samples on the market.... so we can see benchmarks...and start drooling (or not..but I hope it will)
    
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You say that with a straight face in a thread about a CPU that hasn't even been cut from the silicon yet?

By the way, I know your comment wasn't directed specifically at me or my comment, but it is possible to express caution or concern without it being a flame. Personally, I see no reason to argue for or against AMD's quad-core since, as already stated, it is still just plans on a piece of paper.

When the first test chips start to hit the streets, then we can discuss the benchmarks and actual performance. Until then, it's all theoretical and hearsay, and an excercise in futility.
You honestly think Intel and AMD would put in the millions (billions) to research and plan quad-cores if it was only "a plan on a piece of paper" Unless they are both run by complete idiots, they will have already attempted the architecture once, just not in a "semi-mass" production necessary for benchmarking purposes. By the time those "test chips" "hit the streets" they will have already tried a lot of things, and probably will have the technology near-perfect. Trust me, AMD probably has a secret room where they run tests for Quad Cores already.
    
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Kentsfeild will choke under its own power. By using the FSB, Intel have pretty much killed it. Under full load on ALL cores, the FSB will be saturated and performance will diminish rapidly.
Actually you couldnt be more wrong, as of 6 months from now intel will release the quad core that is ONE chip with four cores in it which means that none of the communication between the cores will have to access the FSB and instead will communicate via the 2.66ghz inside the CPU (in the QX6700 case which is 2.66ghz rated) so it will still be on top even if AMD releases a true quad core at their 9ops a cycle standard. This means it will be an 8MB shared L2 and all cores will communicate at 2.66ghz and achieve pwnage. Im not trying to be a fanboy, as I nearly sold my intel setup to get an X2-3800 last month but then decided to hold out for quadcore intel because right now I can't see anything better. AMD still hasn't done anything better than saying they will release a dual cpu quad core which will cost BOATLOADS, and still does only 9ops per cycle.
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Actually you couldnt be more wrong, as of 6 months from now intel will release the quad core that is ONE chip with four cores in it which means that none of the communication between the cores will have to access the FSB and instead will communicate via the 2.66ghz inside the CPU (in the QX6700 case which is 2.66ghz rated) so it will still be on top even if AMD releases a true quad core at their 9ops a cycle standard. This means it will be an 8MB shared L2 and all cores will communicate at 2.66ghz and achieve pwnage. Im not trying to be a fanboy, as I nearly sold my intel setup to get an X2-3800 last month but then decided to hold out for quadcore intel because right now I can't see anything better. AMD still hasn't done anything better than saying they will release a dual cpu quad core which will cost BOATLOADS, and still does only 9ops per cycle.

Your information is off.

Before the end of the year Intel will have the Kenstfield out.

It needs the large amount of cache to compensate for the slower access time the CPU has to the RAM.

And you still didnt say anything about why the FSB wouldnt cripple it. I bet when all 4 cores are working, such as maybe in a server setup, there will be scalability problems because of it.
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