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The memory score jumped from 7.3 to 7.8!

WHAT?

I didn't know it was possible to get a 7.8 with a 4 GB kit that I bought like two years ago.

What's the point of overclocking the memory clock? I went from 1.3 GHz to 1.9 GHz and I jumped from 7.3 to 7.4. lol >.>
Edited by tahayassen - 6/17/12 at 7:38am
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The WEI score is nearly useless. It is intended to help uninformed, non-technical users determine whether or not the software they want to buy will run well on their computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Experience_Index
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Quote:
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The WEI score is useless.

Fixed.

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WEI isn't an accurate test for rating your RAM. Pure speed is almost always better.

If you actually got that kind of increase from adjusting your timings (it's probably just WEI being stupid):
1) Your timings were way off
2) You adjusted them to the point where they aren't stable. Make sure you run memtest for 3-4 full loops. I've seen people get very tight timings that seem like their stable, but they are silently corrupting data.
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Should I do:

1.9 GHz 9-9-9-24-33 (timings were on auto)
or
1.6 GHz 6-8-5-16-25

Also, I'll be sure to run memtest.
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Timings can affect bandwidth on AMD systems but that doesn't mean that such large performance increases are necessarily reflected.  For one WEI is not very accurate, random occurences can affect test scores.  For the best results, try something like MaxxMem to compare bandwidth.  The results on 1600Mhz 6-8-6 are probably fairly close to 1900Mhz 9-9-9 but there may be variances in bandwidth vs. latency.  I guess go with whatever provides the best of the result that matters to you.

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Timings can affect bandwidth on AMD systems but that doesn't mean that such large performance increases are necessarily reflected.  For one WEI is not very accurate, random occurences can affect test scores.  For the best results, try something like MaxxMem to compare bandwidth.  The results on 1600Mhz 6-8-6 are probably fairly close to 1900Mhz 9-9-9 but there may be variances in bandwidth vs. latency.  I guess go with whatever provides the best of the result that matters to you.

After some stability testing, 1600 MHz resulted in: 6-8-7-16-27. I'm going to benchmark this, switch to 1900 MHz and see if I can lower the timings and then benchmark again. I'll compare the results and post back here.
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i followed the link for your ram and this what i found . . .

http://www.overclock.net/products/g-skill-ripjaw-x-4gb-2-x-2gb-7-8-7-24-1-5v

a lot of info there. you've got a good set there.
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download MaxxMEM2. its a great RAM benchmarking software.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tahayassen View Post

After some stability testing, 1600 MHz resulted in: 6-8-7-16-27. I'm going to benchmark this, switch to 1900 MHz and see if I can lower the timings and then benchmark again. I'll compare the results and post back here.

FYI- Usually you are limited in reducing latency as the frequency increases because one clock cycle in real time decreases as frequency increases. So you may or may not be able to lower the latency when you increase the frequency but the "real time" of the latency settings will still be reduced slightly. Often you actually need to increase the latency to run the RAM stable at a higher frequency.

It's worth noting that synthetic benches show theoretical performance changes which can be much different than how actual applications perform with OC'd RAM.
Edited by AMD4ME - 6/23/12 at 1:42pm
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