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Sad Mr. Jobs passed on though...

Absolutely. I probably won't buy anything from Apple again except for an iPod for the rest of my life, but the man was an absolute business genius. That, paired with his charisma was insanely effective at molding an entire industry.

It's very clear in the many interviews he's given that he always had wisdom well beyond his years and had tremendous foresight.
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Sad Mr. Jobs passed on though...

Absolutely. I probably won't buy anything from Apple again except for an iPod for the rest of my life, but the man was an absolute business genius. That, paired with his charisma was insanely effective at molding an entire industry.

It's very clear in the many interviews he's given that he always had wisdom well beyond his years and had tremendous foresight.

Not...really. He was just extremely arrogant. He was a total D. He treated people like crap. He thinks he was a god given gift. He pretty much thought he created the computer. He never really made anything. He just took one tiny thing and perfected it over and over. And when I say perfected I mean tinkered with it until it was as it was in his head. He didn't let anyone mess with any of his "creations." He thought the people that bought his products were stupid and shouldn't mess with it. They shouldn't open his products to tinker inside. He didn't want his competition to "copy" him despite him being the ultimate copycat and tinkerer.

I digress. The guy died, that's almost always sad, but he's nowhere near the genius people thought he was. He'll be forgotten in a bit more than a decade.
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as always, it looks the same. no thanks. Galaxy Nexus for me.
 
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post #14 of 25
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Not...really. He was just extremely arrogant. He was a total D. He treated people like crap. He thinks he was a god given gift. He pretty much thought he created the computer. He never really made anything. He just took one tiny thing and perfected it over and over. And when I say perfected I mean tinkered with it until it was as it was in his head. He didn't let anyone mess with any of his "creations." He thought the people that bought his products were stupid and shouldn't mess with it. They shouldn't open his products to tinker inside. He didn't want his competition to "copy" him despite him being the ultimate copycat and tinkerer.
I digress. The guy died, that's almost always sad, but he's nowhere near the genius people thought he was. He'll be forgotten in a bit more than a decade.

You're sadly misinformed if you think Jobs and the team he created didn't make anything themselves. Their work actually even led to the breakthrough in making color monitors and TVs remotely economical for public consumption.

Apple essentially invented the PC.

Aside from any of that and just to focus on Jobs, the results speak for themselves as far as his credence as a businessman went. He shaped the team around him to be able to do the things Apple did early on. He then came back to Apple to save them from a close and very certain bankruptcy.

I bet if I rounded up everyone that you've had cross encounters with in your life and asked them to tell me about you, the end result would be a pretty bad picture as well. If you have no enemies, then you're not doing anything worth a damn.

I do entirely disagree with the path Apple has gone down in recent years to hinder industry progression, but there's no denying the man was a business genius with great foresight.
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post #15 of 25
Let's keep this about the iPhone 5 and not a Steve Jobs debate thread.


Yeah besides a bigger screen I am not expecting it to be much. iOS 6 was already a bit underwhelming in my opinion. Apple will make the screen bigger and tell the world it was their idea.
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The way he ran the business, he was either a fantastic business man or the biggest prick to have walked this earth...with too much money. Only the inner circle at Apple knows the truth.
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apple invented the pc?! well lets see here...without dennis ritchie there was nothing.
 
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post #18 of 25
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Let's keep this about the iPhone 5 and not a Steve Jobs debate thread.


Yeah besides a bigger screen I am not expecting it to be much. iOS 6 was already a bit underwhelming in my opinion. Apple will make the screen bigger and tell the world it was their idea.
Yeah well, Apple created Color TV's and Monitors and IPS panels so they invented larger screens. It was all their idea.

Apple ingeuity.
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apple invented the pc?! well lets see here...without dennis ritchie there was nothing.

Hush hush, we don't speak of anything that goes against Steve Jobs here. After all, he's dead. It's pretty much offending him. You spit on the dead, sir. How dare you!

On a serious note other than being elongated and having some kind of "marble pearlescent" look to the MIDDLE back area..I'm not sure why the entire phone doesn't share that scheme. It looks odd with the old white non-pearlescent look to it.
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Yeah well, Apple created Color TV's and Monitors and IPS panels so they invented larger screens. It was all their idea.
Apple ingeuity.
Hush hush, we don't speak of anything that goes against Steve Jobs here. After all, he's dead. It's pretty much offending him. You spit on the dead, sir. How dare you!
On a serious note other than being elongated and having some kind of "marble pearlescent" look to the MIDDLE back area..I'm not sure why the entire phone doesn't share that scheme. It looks odd with the old white non-pearlescent look to it.

why dont we shift the topic to something thats worth something...android! thumb.gif
 
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apple invented the pc?! well lets see here...without dennis ritchie there was nothing.

You're reading too deeply into what I'm saying because of obvious bias. I didn't say Apple invented every little piece of technology in their PC. I mean PC meaning just that, personal computer. Something affordable and functional enough for people to have in their homes.

It's like saying Ford would have been nothing if someone hadn't invented the wheel or the engine. There's no point in this thought process. The point is Ford made automobiles affordable and accessible to the masses. This analogy is in no way perfectly parallel though. Apple did legitimately invent important technologies, especially in the very beginning.

Nothing I'm saying has anything to do with Jobs being dead, and I'm absolutely not a fanboy at all. I would have the same opinion if he was still alive simply because I have read about him and watched many interviews. I use a Galaxy S2, PC, and will either be buying an Android or W8 tablet/laptop hybrid in the near future. The only Apple product that remotely interests me is their iPod (not touch) line.

edit

Not sure what I was thinking when I said TV in my previous post. I just meant the computer monitor.
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