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Yeh but if we wanted to pound foreign countries with our massive nuclear missile archive and the payload wasn't able to burst all over them it would be a bit embarrassing.

China will be the superpower for the next decades, whether you like it or not. Nukes or no nukes. It's about time the US got that message.
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China will be the superpower for the next decades, whether you like it or not. Nukes or no nukes. It's about time the US got that message.

China has virtually no military power projection and they are a decade or two behind the US.

How many carriers or foreign bases does China have? In fact, do you even know what the range of China's military is without fuel resupply planes? The US can bomb targets globally while China's bomber range is only a few hundred miles.
Edited by DuckieHo - 6/18/12 at 9:13am
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China will be the superpower for the next decades, whether you like it or not. Nukes or no nukes. It's about time the US got that message.

LOL!

You have no idea what the capabilities of the US military are if you even slightly believe this. Being a superpower means you have to contribute more than cheaply made toxic products to the rest of the world...

Like Duckie posted, HPC's are purposely built for specific tasks. The compute power required to simulate nuclear explosions (and containment practices) require the most sophisticated hardware on the planet. The US still uses other supercomputers to investigate disease, famine, weather, volcanoes, earthquakes, car crashes and just about everything else (as do other countries).
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LOL!
You have no idea what the capabilities of the US military are if you even slightly believe this. Being a superpower means you have to contribute more than cheaply made toxic products to the rest of the world...
Like Duckie posted, HPC's are purposely built for specific tasks. The compute power required to simulate nuclear explosions (and containment practices) require the most sophisticated hardware on the planet. The US still uses other supercomputers to investigate disease, famine, weather, volcanoes, earthquakes, car crashes and just about everything else (as do other countries).

I'm not sure if you are old enough to know this, but remember back when Japan used to be like China when it made products? Look at it now; Japan's economy has boomed and know they're developing cutting-edge technology. Imagine if Japan put that money into a military. Now imagine how much military power China could buy after its economy booms.
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Anyway, this is pretty cool. I want to have a tour of a supercomputer one day. I've already toured the McKinley Climatic Lab at Eglin AFB, FL. It was -60F with snow and wind inside a building while outside it was 90F.
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3 words Iran and North Korea

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Anyway, this is pretty cool. I want to have a tour of a supercomputer one day. I've already toured the McKinley Climatic Lab at Eglin AFB, FL. It was -60F with snow and wind inside a building while outside it was 90F.


Download Folding@Home.

Your PC is now a supercomputer node. thumb.gif
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I'm not sure if you are old enough to know this, but remember back when Japan used to be like China when it made products? Look at it now; Japan's economy has boomed and know they're developing cutting-edge technology. Imagine if Japan put that money into a military. Now imagine how much military power China could buy after its economy booms.

China is not Japan.
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Download Folding@Home.
Your PC is now a supercomputer node. thumb.gif

I am seriously considering trying that out when I get back to the US
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China has virtually no military power projection and they are a decade or two behind the US.
How many carriers or foreign bases does China have? In fact, do you even know what the range of China's military is without fuel resupply planes? The US can bomb targets globally while China's bomber range is only a few hundred miles.

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LOL!
You have no idea what the capabilities of the US military are if you even slightly believe this. Being a superpower means you have to contribute more than cheaply made toxic products to the rest of the world...
Like Duckie posted, HPC's are purposely built for specific tasks. The compute power required to simulate nuclear explosions (and containment practices) require the most sophisticated hardware on the planet. The US still uses other supercomputers to investigate disease, famine, weather, volcanoes, earthquakes, car crashes and just about everything else (as do other countries).

Both of your comments pretty much sum up the purpose of my comment. This has nothing to do with military.

The importance of military in a super power is declining, as we can pretty much destroy everyone and everything 10 times over by now. Huge military actions are over. You won't see China go to war with anyone, they don't have to. Anyone who starts a war these days is bound to be confronted with an entire Alliance of Western countries opposing the aggressor.

Do you have any idea who invests the most in developing countries ? China.

Who is building roads, public infrastructures, schools, libraries, mines, bridges, dams, factories, foundries, refineries, power plants, oil / gas rigs there ? China.

Who is paying for that and who is therefor in control ? China.

Who is lending billions of dollars to almost any country around the world ? China.

The next super power will be the one who controls the vast majority of resources, China's only decent resource is man power. It had to expand, either through war, which no longer works, or peacefully. Now it's arms stretch around the world, grabbing hold of the majority of all resources on the planet.

China has the financial plug in its hands. Soon it will have the resources and the vote of many up on many developing countries. All through peaceful "conquest". Military you say ? That's so... American.
Edited by Xenthos - 6/18/12 at 10:05am
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