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It's not really that the bass is amplified by the headphones, it's more that the bass in most dubstep is mid-bass that punches instead of that lovely sub-bass that really booms and creates atmosphere.

Bass shouldn't 'boom', that's the point. When bass is amplified at a certain frequency due to the shape of the area a headphone or speaker is producing sound into, that's boom. Almost all rooms have it, its not particularly rare in headphones, but the level at which a bad frequency is amplified at is lower.

Any decent headphone should be pretty flat in its response, so whether the bass is sub or mid, shouldn't make it much louder. Unless that coincides with the frequency they 'boom' at.
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Also, driver size has nothing to do with how the headphone sounds like nor sound quality.

As the audio editor, you should know that isn't strictly true. A smaller drive unit, when equalised to produce the same levels of bass as a larger driver, will produce significantly more distortion. It's also why you'll never get ear-destroying sub-bass from in-ear headphones. because if they EQ'd them that way, they'd distort like hell and you'd return them to the store. I used to work for a company who made electrostatic drivers for headphones. we tested this sort of stuff all the time.
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That said, the Pioneer HDJ2000 is popular in DJ circles so...
But yeah, moneygrab and it isn't targeted towards the DJ market like the HDJ-2000.

But yeah, the JVC FX500 and FX700 are the real sub-bass kings of earphones. Insane sub-bass that you do feel, which is a significant achievement, particularly for an in-ear with a bass port (thus lower isolation). The drops will feel like real drops. Also I mean real drops like in the song below at 2:06, not your Skrillex 'drops'

Warning: At loud volumes, may damage sound equipment. Really. Not kidding. Don't say I didn't warn you.
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It's also why you'll never get ear-destroying sub-bass from in-ear headphones.

Unless it is heavily tweaked towards the sub bass, like the JVC FX500 and JVC FX700 are. They are helped by significantly large (for in-ears) bass ports though and birchwood being used as the casing and as part of the driver.

But that said, a lot so called 'neutral-sounding' headphones, are actually bass recessed to varying degrees. As you probably well know Monstrous, 'linear' or 'balanced sounding' for headphones isn't flatline like in speakers due to the influence of the pinna.
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Bass shouldn't 'boom', that's the point. When bass is amplified at a certain frequency due to the shape of the area a headphone or speaker is producing sound into, that's boom. Almost all rooms have it, its not particularly rare in headphones, but the level at which a bad frequency is amplified at is lower.
Ok, so let's use the word "rumble" instead of boom. I'd like a deep rumble when there's a deep rumble in whatever I'm listening to, like the bass in Flux Pavillion's remix of Louder (which seems to start off at a lower frequency than my AD700 can really handle).
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Real sub-bass is more of a 'thud' sound while mid-bass is 'boom'.
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The drops will feel like real drops. Also I mean real drops like in the song below at 2:06, not your Skrillex 'drops'
Warning: At loud volumes, may damage sound equipment. Really. Not kidding. Don't say I didn't warn you.

I actually have this in .wav on a CD. I use it for equalising rooms and finding bad bass points and positioning speakers.

I use this for setting subwoofers up -



Proper sub bass shouldn't even have a defining start as such, it should be used atmospherically. Hans Zimmers 'Time' is a great example of how to use sub bass properly and a shining of example of how emotive music can be, I urge every 'bass' fan give it a listen.


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I'll stick with my SRH-840s I think.
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It has its own EQ. Can you say beats rip off?
     
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Lulz.....
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Proper sub bass shouldn't even have a defining start as such, it should be used atmospherically. Hans Zimmers 'Time' is a great example of how to use sub bass properly and a shining of example of how emotive music can be, I urge every 'bass' fan give it a listen.
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Oh I know, but an overload on sub-bass isn't a bad test wink.gif

This song is also another example of 'proper sub-bass' in a song creating atmosphere. Great song all round to test every aspect of your system.
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