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post #1 of 24
6/19/12 at 7:20pm
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My friend is building a new computer with about 700-800 dollar budget.

I saw this barebones kit on tigerdirect :
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2580461&sku=B69-1412
With a 560ti SC:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7191453&sku=E145-0562

Total after rebates: 790


I tried to build a different one with separate parts, has some better parts and less hard drive space that he doesn't care about.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7281716&sku=TSD-500AAKX
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1927343&sku=T925-8022
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7195036&sku=C13-2800
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7191453&sku=E145-0562
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1963183&sku=A79-4170
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=670049&sku=A455-3058
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=40739&sku=C13-5720

Total after rebates: 730



Sorry for all the links, but if anyone has the time to review the parts and give your opinion on how we could save money or get better performance that would be appreciated.
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post #2 of 24
6/19/12 at 7:55pm
I'll get the barebone + videocard, for better performance my only concerned was the mobo & ram with the bundle i want a mobo with a vrm heatsink & a ram of 1600 speed not 1333 oh well i think this was the catch that's why they are selling it as bundle, i hope you can wait for other helpers , to come up with a more assessment & a sim~build for your budget. redface.gif
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post #3 of 24
6/19/12 at 7:57pm
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/atcd
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/atcd/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/atcd/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper N520 43.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $766.91
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available)
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post #4 of 24
6/19/12 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by Gogaijin View Post

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/atcd
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/atcd/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/atcd/benchmarks/
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper N520 43.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $766.91
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available)
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This is worse than both imo
ssd is the only better thing lol
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post #5 of 24
6/19/12 at 8:34pm
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This is worse than both imo
ssd is the only better thing lol

No the 2500k is faster than that fx 4100 you had selected and on par with the 3570k in the bare bones that has a crap psu and mobo
and why get a 560ti when he can get a 7850?
Edited by JozefH - 6/19/12 at 10:35pm
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post #6 of 24
6/19/12 at 10:59pm
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This is worse than both imo
ssd is the only better thing lol
You can get the 7850 from Newegg for $250, so it will be better than both builds.
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post #7 of 24
6/20/12 at 3:21am
Fair enough on the 7850. Don't know which model you would prefer but if it were me... MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 Video Card -2048MB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 3.0 (x16), 1x Dual-Link DVI, 2x Mini DisplayPorts, 1x HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, Eyefinity 6 Item#: M452-7870 | Model#: R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC. 269.99@ tigerdirect.com or wherever you can find it cheaper
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post #8 of 24
6/20/12 at 7:15am
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  • I don't understand the point of brand favoritism.
Don't ever get barebones kits, they are crap, and FX 4100's are also crap, don't invest in them. For the budget($700-$800) an i5 is a not the way to go, either go i3 or PII x4. An i5 is wasteful and you will see improved frame rate from a better GPU.
PII x4 w/ 7950 (Click to show)
PCPartPicker part list

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Microcenter)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($377.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill 530W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $792.48
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
Also, you might be able to get the 965 cheaper from superbiz. I am not sure if the offer is still valid
And if you don't mind a refurb CPU cooler, 212 EVO at Geeks
Edited by Ironman517 - 6/20/12 at 7:22am
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post #9 of 24
6/20/12 at 12:22pm
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Don't ever get barebones kits, they are crap, and FX 4100's are also crap, don't invest in them. For the budget($700-$800) an i5 is a not the way to go, either go i3 or PII x4. An i5 is wasteful and you will see improved frame rate from a better GPU. PII x4 w/ 7950 (Click to show)
PCPartPicker part list
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Microcenter)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($377.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill 530W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $792.48
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
Also, you might be able to get the 965 cheaper from superbiz. I am not sure if the offer is still valid
And if you don't mind a refurb CPU cooler, 212 EVO at Geeks
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post #10 of 24
6/20/12 at 9:17pm
Thread Starter 
how is this guys

http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/wishlist/wishlist.asp?WishId=C9E9368A-6214-4711-9783-9459639A528A&Desc=Keanus%20Build

$780 after rebates
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