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Some people such as myself just prefer a dedicated "app", don't know why I'm just like that. I'll take a webapp, but a dedicated app is something that I'm accustomed to and for some reason appeals to me.
Also, "apps were made for phone" isn't really true, app stands for application and your browser that you're posting in is an application itself.
Anyway, there's a lot of potential for this thing if it's priced right and advertised competitively. I just don't see either of those things happening, which is why I'm extremely hesitant to say it will overtake the iPad. Especially when so many tablet users already have a lot of money invested in iOS, which is why Apple has so many users. If you've invested a lot of money into one ecosystem, you probably wouldn't just drop all of it and move to a new one because the hardware is new and shiny.
Also, I don't see this thing running games well. The screen is 1080p, and the Intel HD 3000 often has a hard time running games at 1366x768. Sure this is the 4000, but the performance is in no way a boost large enough to game at 1080p comfortably or even 720p at 60FPS (30, maybe).
As far as apps go, wasn't the Microsoft Windows App Store leaked a LONG time ago? That's probably why the introduced it in Windows 8, for devices like this.
And I've said it once but I'll say it again, $1000 isn't the sweet spot for this. Place the Intel version at $700 and you should be golden. I only paid $350 for my iPad which is a pretty good deal. The difference in prices with these devices is substantial enough to turn many people off.
I may pick one up anyway though, I need a laptop just for typing stuff and if the keyboard is as great as people say it is I will probably get this instead

That's just it. The surface isn't supposed to be a gaming machine. That argument applies to EVERY tablet and ultrabook on the market with integrated graphics. If you want something for 1080p gaming, you have to go bigger than that.
While intel is still lacking in the graphics department (unfortunately), the 4000 series is decent for simple DX games that people will want to play on a tablet (and might actually floor some current tablets at that).

I would have loved to see trinity in one of these buy oh well ....
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That's just it. The surface isn't supposed to be a gaming machine. That argument applies to EVERY tablet and ultrabook on the market with integrated graphics. If you want something for 1080p gaming, you have to go bigger than that.
While intel is still lacking in the graphics department (unfortunately), the 4000 series is decent for simple DX games that people will want to play on a tablet (and might actually floor some current tablets at that).
I would have loved to see trinity in one of these buy oh well ....
I know that, I'm agreeing with you. But I've seen some posts in the thread that are saying that gaming on this would beat gaming on an iPad or Android tablet. The thing is, games for iPads and Android tablets are designed for that hardware. There are so many variations of PC hardware, from slow to fast, that they're not as "optimized" as those games are? I guess that came out how I meant it to.

My point was that this thing isn't for gaming. It's powerful for a tablet, but those hoping to run games and other intensive windows applications on it can look for something else. This isn't meant for that, it's just a powerful tablet running a full OS.
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I know that, I'm agreeing with you. But I've seen some posts in the thread that are saying that gaming on this would beat gaming on an iPad or Android tablet. The thing is, games for iPads and Android tablets are designed for that hardware. There are so many variations of PC hardware, from slow to fast, that they're not as "optimized" as those games are? I guess that came out how I meant it to.
My point was that this thing isn't for gaming. It's powerful for a tablet, but those hoping to run games and other intensive windows applications on it can look for something else. This isn't meant for that, it's just a powerful tablet running a full OS.

Any gaming that can be done it's more of a "perk" not a feature, IMHO. biggrin.gif

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I still have an iPad 1st gen. I use it on a daily basis when I am not at my sig rig. It crashes at least 3 times an hour.

I've been holding off getting a replacement tablet; looks like this is the one!

I'm right there with you. This thing look legit
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Any gaming that can be done it's more of a "perk" not a feature, IMHO. biggrin.gif
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Agreed. And any gaming that can be done would be awesome. I could totally see someone getting emulators working fantastically on it. I mean, Project64 and other emulators for older consoles already run great on devices with similar specs. My friend is running a 1st gen Core i3 laptop with integrated graphics for P64 and gets consistently smooth framerates. Imagine how this will fare.

I really want one, I just hope the price is more around the $700 range.
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Sorry but I see this being the next Zune or WP7. Microsoft just cant seem to market hardware properly.

Yea, they don't make the most popular console or anything...
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I have been waiting about 10 years for a product like this. I'm excited because utilized correctly, this technology (with docking station/ Pro model) could easily replace my work laptop and add functionality (Wacom) that I have been lusting over for way too long.
Fun times ahead, I wonder if this will go anywhere.
It's an interesting article.

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I'm not a huge fan of the "tablet revolution", and I hate many parts of Windows 8, but Microsoft has seemingly brought their a-game to the market.

I doubt I'll buy one for myself, but I'll probably buy one for my dad to play with for Christmas.
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Thread cleaned, stay on topic please.
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I'm not a huge fan of the "tablet revolution", and I hate many parts of Windows 8, but Microsoft has seemingly brought their a-game to the market.
I doubt I'll buy one for myself, but I'll probably buy one for my dad to play with for Christmas.

I'm hoping they brought it.

Most of the other product launches have been someone lack-luster as of late, and it would be really nice for them to do one right for a change. thumb.gif

Christmas is going to be a nice time for your dad (especially if he's just a little bit techie)
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