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Poll Results: Hayate or Talent?

 
  • 52% (12)
    Artisan Hayate
  • 47% (11)
    Puretrak Talent
23 Total Votes  
post #11 of 27
Thread Starter 
If the Hayate will last forever and never deteriorate then I don't mind investing so much money in it. wink.gif
But which pad is faster, the Hayate or Talent? I mostly play FPS games so I need to have a lot of control.
Edited by NateZ28 - 6/21/12 at 10:55am
post #12 of 27
Again, only for you: EVERY MATERIAL GETS USED UP. Cloth gets used up faster then metal and if you spill fluid over it or you sweat a alot or for a long time the glue stops working. You can use better glue but theres no perfect glue.

In fact if you read your thread u read that:
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It's all up to you man but in the end it comes down to marketing for the Hayate and all of their other products. I'm unhappy with them because after spending $50 on a freakin' pad... I couldn't get a hold of someone who spoke English to get support on an issue I had with the cloth separating from the rubber base. Only Chinese despite it being a "Japanese" company.
cloth seperating from the rubber base means a DEAD pad.
It happens to all pads sooner or later, but as i understand this post it happend fast;)

PS: why do you ask which pad is faster? if you need control you have to ask which pad was slower. Cant tell you which is faster, both are kinda fast.
post #13 of 27
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by IloveKuchen View Post

Again, only for you: EVERY MATERIAL GETS USED UP. Cloth gets used up faster then metal and if you spill fluid over it or you sweat a alot or for a long time the glue stops working. You can use better glue but theres no perfect glue.
In fact if you read your thread u read that:
cloth seperating from the rubber base means a DEAD pad.
It happens to all pads sooner or later, but as i understand this post it happend fast;)
PS: why do you ask which pad is faster? if you need control you have to ask which pad was slower. Cant tell you which is faster, both are kinda fast.

Most things I've read make the Hayate sound very durable, so his may have been defective.
So for better control in aiming and what-not in games I want a less slick/slower pad? I'm still rather new to cloth pads so you'll have to excuse my ignorance.
post #14 of 27
the Hayate is going to be maximum fast.... literally like using an icemat if you ever had one. personally i found too much speed over time is annoying and causes more dmg to your skill than anything

the talent is fast, but "smooth" as well giving it a unique balance. the most thing you'll read about the talent is how smooth and consistent it is which is why you'll see many many many more pro and semi-pro players using one

i can't on my phone but my vote goes to the talent
post #15 of 27
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeRELI View Post

the Hayate is going to be maximum fast.... literally like using an icemat if you ever had one. personally i found too much speed over time is annoying and causes more dmg to your skill than anything
the talent is fast, but "smooth" as well giving it a unique balance. the most thing you'll read about the talent is how smooth and consistent it is which is why you'll see many many many more pro and semi-pro players using one
i can't on my phone but my vote goes to the talent

Hmmm more people are voting for the Hayate. But what you say does make sense.
I wonder if the expensive price of the Artisan gives it an added placebo effect of making you think it's better. tongue.gif
post #16 of 27
lol icemant fast. Come on, no it's not that fast.

And how many people do you think own a talent AND a hayate?
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post #17 of 27
Mate, most people here never even saw the pad live.
Its popular/out for some months, i doubt anybody here even used it the 6months they say that a qck heavy (worst durable pad i know off:D) lasts.
I voted for the hayate because you asked what is the better pad and nothing else, i didnt vote for keeping/getting one just that compared to the puretrek its better.

To keep it short, even the best Jeans are done after riding a bike too often, the same goes for cloth pads even if it was awesome NASA ultrafiber special cloth.

If you get yours and its damaged you are screwed, you will have cost and trouble getting your money/substitute pad, buying stuff from Japan is okay but its not as "cool" as the Hongkong traders from ebay(they sell so much that they are totally fast and easy with such stuff).

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I wonder if the expensive price of the Artisan gives it an added placebo effect of making you think it's better.
Of course it is.
Levis Jeans get a hole in it the same as h&M jeans.
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So for better control in aiming and what-not in games I want a less slick/slower pad?
Try to make 3steps followed buy a 1,5m jump and after it a full stop on the street.
Now do it on ice.
Whats offering more control?

The only pad where its disturbing is the goliathus, the control is rough and therefore you have less surface=less friction. That means its FASTER then the Speed edition.
One way or the other faster aint better and more control aint better, its what you want and need, the Hayate and Puretrek both offer a lot of speed, more then the Goliathus control but not THAT much more.


I n the end its not worth the money YOU have to pay(the japanese price is like half of it), but its only some drinks of money so if you really want it get it, its an awesome pad and its probably the best made mousepad quality wise but it wont last forever, it wont even last a lot longer then other pads since most of them really are fine.
post #18 of 27
Well actually I've used the pad for alittle over 6-7 months now. No fraying even on the bottom (even though I want it to since it's sharp). And fraying is apparently fixed with a lighter to heat the wax. My Talent frays pretty easily as far as I can see since there's not much to prevent that on the sides.
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post #19 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by IloveKuchen View Post

If you get yours and its damaged you are screwed, you will have cost and trouble getting your money/substitute pad, buying stuff from Japan is okay but its not as "cool" as the Hongkong traders from ebay(they sell so much that they are totally fast and easy with such stuff).
99% of what I've heard about their customer service has been positive. My experience was really good too, got replies in English to my questions within one day usually, and it took 2 or 3 days to get from Japan to England.
post #20 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by IloveKuchen View Post

Mate, most people here never even saw the pad live.
Its popular/out for some months, i doubt anybody here even used it the 6months they say that a qck heavy (worst durable pad i know off:D) lasts.
I voted for the hayate because you asked what is the better pad and nothing else, i didnt vote for keeping/getting one just that compared to the puretrek its better.
To keep it short, even the best Jeans are done after riding a bike too often, the same goes for cloth pads even if it was awesome NASA ultrafiber special cloth.
If you get yours and its damaged you are screwed, you will have cost and trouble getting your money/substitute pad, buying stuff from Japan is okay but its not as "cool" as the Hongkong traders from ebay(they sell so much that they are totally fast and easy with such stuff).
Of course it is.
Levis Jeans get a hole in it the same as h&M jeans.

Try to make 3steps followed buy a 1,5m jump and after it a full stop on the street.
Now do it on ice.
Whats offering more control?
The only pad where its disturbing is the goliathus, the control is rough and therefore you have less surface=less friction. That means its FASTER then the Speed edition.
One way or the other faster aint better and more control aint better, its what you want and need, the Hayate and Puretrek both offer a lot of speed, more then the Goliathus control but not THAT much more.
I n the end its not worth the money YOU have to pay(the japanese price is like half of it), but its only some drinks of money so if you really want it get it, its an awesome pad and its probably the best made mousepad quality wise but it wont last forever, it wont even last a lot longer then other pads since most of them really are fine.

see, more people like this are needed on this forum. others on here either way over hype or way over bash something and make a big deal out of absolute nothing when all people who come here are looking for a true and honest answer like the above. +rep my man

fyi, the 'fraying" on the talent has been gone for quite sometime on the new models. there is a forum post on it here somewhere but basically they were fraying the edges a bit from the factory so your wrist wouldnt get cut up or scratched constantly. if you have a hayate, you know exactly what im talking about as that edge is really... really, really, sharp.
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