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6/21/12 at 2:10pm
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So I spent all tuesday reinstall windows 7 on my desktop PC using my new SSD. Everyone was going fine had it all up and running. Boot times were under 10 seconds.

But then I allowed windows update to run. First update or three were all fine. Then I installed 2 programs and windows update installed another set of updates. Now on boot instead of immediatly loading my desktop the second the windows logo appeared, it sat there for 30 more seconds. So I thought maybe it was installing the updates. So I restarted it after I got to my desktop. Nope same thing. nearly 50 seconds to boot up!

So I run windows recovery before I installed the programs and windows did its update. I then reinstall the programs and restart, and everything is fast again. Then windows update had more updates. This time it would sit at the windows logo for 60 seconds before getting to the desktop, which is ridiculous. I then tried recovery , but it didn't work that time, I went to try another recovery date and for some reason the list of 15 recovery dates were gone and I was stuck with 3 which I already tried. I tried one more time before I went to bed and when I woke up my PC was frozen at the windows logo.

EDIT: Forgot to add I then tried running startup repair and windows recovery again and both failed. So right now I'm reinstalling windows.

So WHAT THE HELL is going on? Why is windows update nuking my install of windows? I let windows update do whatever it wanted on my laptop and that boots up in under 30 seconds with a HDD. The HDD I had in my desktop also booted up in under 30 seconds.
Edited by Infinitegrim - 6/21/12 at 2:13pm
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6/21/12 at 2:28pm
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I don't know, but I had the same problem over the past few months, so I disabled Windows Update once and for all.

Before doing that, I had to weed out the offending update by uninstalling updates, reinstalling updates, etc. I found it within a matter of a few minutes, but still: it was irritating. Fortunately, I got my fast startup time back (which is why I disabled Windows Update).

Unfortunately, I don't remember which update it was. All I know is that I got rid of it and decided that I was done with Windows Update for good.
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6/21/12 at 2:29pm
What were the two other programs you installed? I've never had problems with windows updates on my ssd. Are you sure windows wasn't doing that "finalization" thing for updates when you boot back up?
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6/21/12 at 2:54pm
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What were the two other programs you installed? I've never had problems with windows updates on my ssd. Are you sure windows wasn't doing that "finalization" thing for updates when you boot back up?

CPUID and HWmonitor


It wasnt finalizing anything because I let it do whatever it wanted. I hit restart through windows after it had bee non the desktop for a few minutes. It didn't show it was installing anything.
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post #5 of 9
6/21/12 at 3:01pm
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So WHAT THE HELL is going on? Why is windows update nuking my install of windows?

You probably aren't letting all the background updates finish, especially the .NET mscorsvw stuff.

Open task manger, and see if the mscorsvw process is running. If it is, it's not done updating. Either let the system idle for a while, or force .NET to execute queued items manually.
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6/21/12 at 3:02pm
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Like I said, I had the exact same thing happen to me. I solved it by first finding the offending update by uninstalling one update at a time (that is, from the updates that were installed on this particular day). Each time I uninstalled an update, I rebooted. After uninstalling a few, I got my fast start time back. At this point, I disabled Windows Update and decided that I'm never using it again.

This was about a few months ago. I don't remember which update it was, but I've had Windows Update disabled ever since and I'm a happy user now.
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6/21/12 at 3:12pm
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Well I'm installing things like drivers on my new install, I'm making an image, and then I'm going to mess with it from there.
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6/21/12 at 3:15pm
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Alright.

If it happens again, then you may need to uninstall one update at a time, rebooting in between each uninstalled update. If the fast startup comes back, then "Hide" the last update that you uninstalled. Also, make a note of it in Notepad or something for future fresh installations of Windows.
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6/21/12 at 3:17pm
ms suppy the update in the proper order,dont click any ,just install then reboot etc till all done then you do the rest!if you dont you will have issue!
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