[MCV] EA Origin: 'Our aim is to be a better version of Steam' - Page 25

Originally Posted by dmasteR 

I've asked my console friends, and they themselves even consider the quality in EA games have gone down the shaft. My friends who play on the PS3, never receive their copy of BattleField 1943 that was promised. They as well don't like the way EA runs (Not only because of the BF situation but many other issues on the console side), which has nothing to do with Origin. EA and Origin go hand in hand on the PC side, you can't say the same seeing as how Origin isn't on the console.
Go look at the issues with EA Published games on the console side. BattleField 3 is a great example in fact as to how many issues there are with the game on the PS3.
Asking people who don't even use the product or know nothing about is, is not a very good representation. Present them as to why people dislike the product, and why people enjoy the product and see what they think is another story.

Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy 

I'm interested to know how why you believe EA games running worse on PS3 than 360 is somehow related to almost any point I made. Especially given the fact that PS3 generally suffers in multiplatform games in general. Generally.
Not even mentioning the fact that PS3 users have been given priority in many ways regarding BF3 and that they actually did give out the game.
Smacks of just saying stuff just to have stuff to say.
Meh.

Originally Posted by Lazloisdavrock 

he on the payroll

Originally Posted by Onex 

not surprised really.

Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy 

I like how you somehow connect launching a game with discounting O_o

Also, here's GOG saying pretty much the exact same thing EA did.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/06/gog-talks-preserving-value-of-games-slow-death-of-drm/#more-102864

Didn't see any of the "BUT THEN HOW WILL GOG COMPETE?!!?!", "GOG are idiots!!" or the song and dance of recent similar announcements but then again, some people are a little bit hypocritical

I will go into the article where Gabe discusses sales though:

Certain (Read:many, most, too many to retain faith in humanity/individual thought process) people will read this and completely miss the actual point in lieu of their Gabe Boner. It also goes well with my recent assertion of the fact that while people rabble and rant about companies being blinded towards anything but £$£$£, consumers for the most part are sometimes no better. Do as I say, not as I do and such. (For the most part....sometimes..¬_¬)

The discussion here was not simply about the effectiveness of a 75% sale, but the effectiveness of MARKETING and ADVERTISING that 75% sale.

This was about the difference between SILENTLY dropping prices like they would do in a regular retailer (as opposed to Steam prices usually being around £10 more than competitive retail prices in a games later life) and making a huge song and dance about having a sale. The 75% was mentioned, but that wasn't actually the point he was making.

He clearly states that he is talking about the difference in getting people excited and buzzed about a deal and silently dropping price of a game over time.

Also, you never know what this factor of 40 is in relation to. If a game is not selling because its priced too high for its price point in the first place, then dropping it to reasonable prices can EASILY increase revenue by a factor of 40.

I could also mention how Valve has the blog who wrote this article "Rock Paper Shotgun" have a "relationship" with Valve, but thats for another time.


Really though, as much as people keep going on with the "its not about the money" thing, this very article shows how the whole thing is literally experiments in ways to extract money from people via psychological impact (even when people aren't really interested in the games).

Essentially working on how to turn gamers into women at a large sale. Doesn't matter if you were particularly interested in said game before it was on sale. Now its on sale, you gotta have it. Or the mere fact that because a sale is on, purchases must be made in order to not miss out. Not to mention the fact that they just love to talk about what they bought in X sale.

Then we get that same argument we have with our lady friends when all that stuff they just bought doesn't even get used, yet they run out to buy even more stuff come the next sale, hence the 100 pairs of unused clothing (or games) that she has in her wardrobe lol! Heck, with all those things just sitting there and collecting dust, you could possibly say its almost as if she didn't even value them at all... Nah. Crazy talk.

Dont even get me started on how she has to keep going back to that same damn shop so often just incase a sale pops up and she misses it

I'm actually finding this interesting even as I type this as I've never even really looked at it like that before and the more I ponder on it, the more I have to just smile at the "EA only care about £$£$£" statements.

Maybe EA do only care about the £$£$, but you can bet that more time/resources are spent at Valve researching marketing psychology than working on HL3 (or games in general tbh) and I scoff at the thought of Gabe saying something like this and being loved for it lol.

Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy 

Essentially working on how to turn gamers into women at a large sale. Doesn't matter if you were particularly interested in said game before it was on sale. Now its on sale, you gotta have it. Or the mere fact that because a sale is on, purchases must be made in order to not miss out. Not to mention the fact that they just love to talk about what they bought in X sale.
Then we get that same argument we have with our lady friends when all that stuff they just bought doesn't even get used, yet they run out to buy even more stuff come the next sale, hence the 100 pairs of unused clothing (or games) that she has in her wardrobe lol! Heck, with all those things just sitting there and collecting dust, you could possibly say its almost as if she didn't even value them at all... Nah. Crazy talk.
Dont even get me started on how she has to keep going back to that same damn shop so often just incase a sale pops up and she misses it

Originally Posted by gelatin_factory 

It seems like you are disrespecting women by saying that they can't resist a sale... Please clarify or retract.
Personally, even if a(n) AAA game is 75% off I won't buy it unless I was already curious about it at launch but not convinced that it was worth full price. IMO, that's a win-win scenario. I get to try a game I'm not sure about for a reduced price and the publisher/developer get some money that they wouldn't have received otherwise.

Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy 
If refusing to love Gabe and his with all my heart to the point of not being able to look at anything else with a little common sense