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I hate origin because it refuses to allow me to pay US dollars even through I live on a US Base...And the fact that it refuses to allow me to use english. Stupid thing forces everything onto you.

It also does not auto update, it's poorly optimized even after (7 years?) It's just a re-skinned EA Downloader, and it's entire "community" aspect is a total joke. BF3 got my money, and I'm glad that's the only title I have a interest in from EA cause I've refused to buy any other games in about 3 years from EA. That, and Activision/their union of companies. All them I don't buy from any more.
post #262 of 347
Wow, just went to get the close quarters pack for bf3, and origin charges tax !? are you kidding me!!
this will never become better or more popular than steam.

if it wasn't for bf3, I wouldn't even have this bloatware on my pc.
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I'm not either, I mean what other reason would he go out of his way to defend EA and bash valve constantly?

To stop people/correct their misinformation and people bashing it for no reason other than because it's EA. A bit like me in Apple threads. I don't like EA, but I can't say anything about Origin because I haven't used it. I don't want to use it either but I don't bash it just because it's from EA.
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You know what, as much as I like Steam, Origin has one thing that Steam cannot touch right now... Customer Service. Let's see you get in a 1 on 1 chat with a Steam rep. that can solve your issues right then and there, not gonna happen on Steam. I had a fee EA game offered to me in my e-mail and the code wasn't working, 15 min in queue and 10 min later I had a good key and was even able to use it on another Origin account that I didn't use to contact them ( I already had the game on my PS3 so I wanted the PC version for my wife's PC/origin account).
If Origin wants to compete there isn't anyone standing in their way other than themselves IMO.
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I would like to say similar, even had a similar experience to you on a few occasions (registered a code I got for BF3 specact but it didn't show, but a CS rep fixed it for me), but someone will make a post we've seen a thousand times detailing how one time CS didn't/couldn't help them which literally means that all Origin CS sucks, all the time. Forever.
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Surely the fact that they amassed a user base including yourself via a popular game means they were actually quite smart. Unless you believe everyone else also stopped playing because they put some ads on Battlelog?
If you've quit playing on the computer, how are you their target audience?
Or do you mean you only play BF3 on XBL? Doesn't that mean they already got some of your money? Twice?
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It means they amassed a userbase from one game, and they might collect others with some of their exclusive IP's (I won't argue with you that Valve did the same thing with HL2). But when they stop playing those games, are they going to continue using Origin? Who knows, I won't be though because their only franchise I'm that interested in is Battlefield. Anything else they choose to release on Origin I'll simply not buy.

Yes, I only play it on XBL now, and yes, I paid for it twice. It was a mistake to do so on my part.
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It means they amassed a userbase from one game, and they might collect others with some of their exclusive IP's (I won't argue with you that Valve did the same thing with HL2). But when they stop playing those games, are they going to continue using Origin? Who knows, I won't be though because their only franchise I'm that interested in is Battlefield. Anything else they choose to release on Origin I'll simply not buy.
Yes, I only play it on XBL now, and yes, I paid for it twice. It was a mistake to do so on my part.

Yes thats exactly what I said they did and they have or already will collect others from their other IP's. There isn't really a "might" about it tbh. EA isn't in the business because they dont sell games on a regular basis. Its obviously quite the opposite.

I could in the same way, ask you if that person who only has Steam installed due to Steamworks requiring them to have it installed will use Steam after they stop playing their Steamworks game? Who knows? Dark Souls will be a Steamworks game. Does a person who wants that game but doesn't have Steam installed want to install Steam, or are they simply trying to play Dark Souls?

What is very evident is that if there is another game they want to play that requires Steamworks, they're still going to be using Steam. Same for Origin.

As long as games that people want to play are released on the platform, this line of discussion is somewhat meaningless.

People want to play Battlefield.

People want to play The Sims.

People want to play Simcity.

People want to play C&C (and the upcoming generals game).

People want to play FIFA (the biggest sports title in the world)

And I'm sure there will be many more to come. It would actually be somewhat dim to suppose otherwise.

There are many more people who value their ability to play these games than there are that value brand loyalty, constant sales, the principles of a corporation or just general whathaveyou that you'll find on a nerd filled tech/gaming site.


What I find interesting in terms of certain areas of Steam, is that people put so much value into games that people generally dont really want to play as such in terms of not finding it worthy to buy in the first place, but may feel enticed to do so if its made part of a huge sales event that gets the people buzzing with excitement.

Not saying that sales do not give people opportunities to buy games that they did generally have a real hankering for (that obviously happens), just find it interesting regarding the pyschology of certain price points and marketing/hype methods of sales causing such itchy "click to buy" mouse fingers which lead to overly large libraries of games collecting dust on a digital shelf.

When people like Good Old Games or EA mention anything like this and how Steams study in sales in ways takes advantage of certain psychological behaviours of people and their love to buy things for cheap, they get urinated on and nobody even stops for a second to think.

However, the reality is always there regardless of peoples inability to accept it: Should Valve care about your (massive) Steam backlog?
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Um, what?

You people like buying a lot of games you'll never play, that's your problem.

And I do mean "problem."
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the size of a backlog is irrelevant to a person that actually has a backlog, as those people have a case of extreme hoarding whether they like to admit it or not
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If you bought a game for $5 and never played it, you were never going to buy that game at full price. They got money from you that they weren't going to get otherwise.

Having that game from 2003 sitting in your Steam library unplayed isn't going to stop you from buying Half-Life 3.

So I don't think they really care.
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they do care and they want you to have a backlog. you having a backlog is basically you giving money directly to gabe for no reason.

Its almost a self contained and fully accepted (yet dimissed and denied) culture within the Steam community lol!

Discussion like this in certain communities *cough*OCN*cough* is almost taboo, however there is a reality there that GoG and EA have brought up, but get treated like they're making up rubbish.

Even to the point where the arguments begin to amount the equivalent of "GoG and EA are just mad that they cant also efficiently extract money out of me so regularly and many times meaninglessly while also making me feel awesome about it!!"
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Grizzle on a role, taking on all new comers, you go grizzle, fight for you like, don't let anyone smack you.
I just want to know, why is is so bad that Origins wants to be better than steam, why not?
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post #269 of 347
all i can say is this:

Steam = Valve, who has been making games and donig things right since 1991 with Half life.

Origin = EA's pitiful joke that cant amount up to steam at all.

argument over...move along please biggrin.gif
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I've learned something in life, and it's that you can never make something better than what you are trying to copy.
 
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