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If you will go for some serious overclocking, go with the 2600K/2700K. They will overclock higher than 3770K and stay cooler. If you are obsessed with the idea of having the latest CPU on the market go with 3770K, but you won't see any difference compared with 2600K/2700K.

I see quite a diff ...

I have both the 3770k and the 2600k.. the 2600k was demoted to back up rig..

And um yah the 3770k over clocks just as well as the 2600k....
Cause it does not transfer heat well and has higher temps means nothing IB can take alot more heat then SB it was made this way.... Thus with people whoo know this 4.8ghz - 5ghz is not to hard...

My 2600k wont get stable past 4.6ghz soo um yah..
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I have researched the same thing for weeks, and I have come to the conclusion that Ivy Bridge is the better one to go with (though I'm getting the 3570K). The 3770K edges out the 2700K because the die shrink. According to the benchmarks I have read, the 3770K is equivalent to a ~200MHz boosted SB (3770K @3.4GHz >= 2700K @3.5GHz).

I'll make a short pro/con list to help aid in your decision.

3770K Pros
-Faster clock for clock than 2700K
-Use Z77 features to its fullest extent (PCIe 3.0, 4K res., etc.)
-Latest and greatest
-Great overclockability under ice
-Lower TDP

3770K Cons
-Runs hot
-More expensive ($350 vs $310 Newegg)
-Overclocking room is limited

2700K Pros
-It runs cooler than 3770K
-Better overclockability than 3770K

2700K Cons
-Outdated architecture
-No PCIe 3.0 (extra bandwidth only really matters on 3x/4x sli/cfx, and few motherboards support those setups)

It's not always about the sheer numbers when it comes to processors. If you think you can use the features the Z77 chipset provides, then by all means, go with Ivy Bridge.

@Hokies83: You just got a lemon. The 3770K does have less overclocking potential under air/closed water loop and it's mainly because of the heat problem it has, but the performance is generally the same when both are overclocked.

Most people can only get up to around 4.5-4.7GHz with the 3770K/3570K, and the 2500K/2600K is usually sitting at 4.7-5GHz. Even at a lower overclocked speed, people are still getting relatively the same performance compared to SB. As long as you have a really good cooler (Phanteks/Noctua/Silver Arrow/H100/open loop LCS/etc.), the heat problem IB has should be under control. Well, it will be under better control than a lower performing cooling system.

I'd highly advise you take a look at this article. It goes much more in depth about the 3770K than I ever will. On the benchmarks, the 4.8GHz 2600K is faster than the 4.5GHz 3770K, but most of them are so close, its within margin of error. If the 3770K was at 4.7GHz, the performance would have been greater than, or equal to, the 2600K.
Edited by airisom2 - 6/30/12 at 6:55am
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I'm going with 3570K on my order today. smile.gif
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I have researched the same thing for weeks, and I have come to the conclusion that Ivy Bridge is the better one to go with (though I'm getting the 3570K). The 3770K edges out the 2700K because the die shrink. According to the benchmarks I have read, the 3770K is equivalent to a ~200MHz boosted SB (3770K @3.4GHz >= 2700K @3.5GHz).
I'll make a short pro/con list to help aid in your decision.
3770K Pros
-Faster clock for clock than 2700K
-Use Z77 features to its fullest extent (PCIe 3.0, 4K res., etc.)
-Latest and greatest
-Great overclockability under ice
-Lower TDP
3770K Cons
-Runs hot
-More expensive ($350 vs $310 Newegg)
-Overclocking room is limited
2700K Pros
-It runs cooler than 3770K
-Better overclockability than 3770K
2700K Cons
-Outdated architecture
-No PCIe 3.0 (extra bandwidth only really matters on 3x/4x sli/cfx, and few motherboards support those setups)
It's not always about the sheer numbers when it comes to processors. If you think you can use the features the Z77 chipset provides, then by all means, go with Ivy Bridge.
@Hokies83: You just got a lemon. The 3770K does have less overclocking potential and it's mainly because of the heat problem it has, but the performance is generally the same when both are overclocked.
Most people can only get up to around 4.5-4.7GHz with the 3770K/3570K, and the 2500K/2600K is usually sitting at 4.7-5GHz. Even at a lower overclocked speed, people are still getting relatively the same performance compared to SB. As long as you have a really good cooler (Phanteks/Noctua/Silver Arrow/H100/open loop LCS/etc.), the heat problem IB has should be under control. Well, it will be under better control than a lower performing cooling system.
I'd highly advise you take a look at this article. It goes much more in depth about the 3770K than I ever will. On the benchmarks, the 4.8GHz 2600K is faster than the 4.5GHz 3770K, but most of them are so close, its within margin of error. If the 3770K was at 4.7GHz, the performance would have been greater than, or equal to, the 2600K.

No the norm on the 2500k and the 2600k is 4.5ghz - 4.8ghz With afew people breaking that as it has been out awhile so there is many people with the chips so yah there are more ppl breaking it...

3770k Norm is also 4.5ghz - 4.8ghz with a select few breaking the 4.8ghz mark more will come as more people buy them just like sandy..

Anything below 95c on IB is ok so you have more over clock room them you think.
    
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IB just isn't about the performance gains. I'll be upgrading to a 3570k soon for the PCIe 3.0.
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IB just isn't about the performance gains. I'll be upgrading to a 3570k soon for the PCIe 3.0.

Not worth it unless you're running a PCIE ssd or something. It isn't worth it for the current gen graphics cards.
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You'll experience higher overclocks with most of the 2700K's. I was in the same boat and opted for it instead of the 3770K. The $70 can be better spent elsewhere in your system. A cooler, a water block, all the misc stuff or even a pump or rad. Or, if you're looking at cases, $70 off of a case you wanted to get.

You gain nothing butter a better built in GPU that you'll most likely never use for $70. If you achieve a higher overclock than the 3770K -- Well, it's a no brainer

Enjoy whichever you choose (I chose the 2700K)
     
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No the norm on the 2500k and the 2600k is 4.5ghz - 4.8ghz With afew people breaking that as it has been out awhile so there is many people with the chips so yah there are more ppl breaking it...
3770k Norm is also 4.5ghz - 4.8ghz with a select few breaking the 4.8ghz mark more will come as more people buy them just like sandy..
Anything below 95c on IB is ok so you have more over clock room them you think.

OP was talking about the 2700K which most of them are hitting the 5ghz thanks to the higher bins (I know my 2600K couldn't and the 2700K can do it with ease.. on an H100 vs the 2600K on full water)

IB runs a lot hotter than Sandy and if you think anything under 95c is okay... eh...... we'll have to agree to disagree considering that's almost the boiling point of water. Longetivity of not just the CPU would be my concern if a part is generating that much heat on a chip.
     
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Going with the 3770K is not worth it if the price difference is that big. The latest 2700K chips almost always clock to 5ghz with acceptable voltage, which can't be said of the IB chips.

Besides if you can OC SB around 200 to 250mhz higher than IB they'll be even. So I'd say go with the 2700K and use the saved money on some other components.
 
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Just because a cpu can run that hot does not make people want to run it that hot. Lol. Just wondering what are your load temps for your cpu Hokies83? (prime for 30min+)
Also what is your physic score in 3dmark 11? just interested
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