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I see quite a diff ...
I have both the 3770k and the 2600k.. the 2600k was demoted to back up rig..
And um yah the 3770k over clocks just as well as the 2600k....
Cause it does not transfer heat well and has higher temps means nothing IB can take alot more heat then SB it was made this way.... Thus with people whoo know this 4.8ghz - 5ghz is not to hard...
My 2600k wont get stable past 4.6ghz soo um yah..

Than obviously your 2600K is a bad clocker and your 3770K is a good one. Generally that's not the case.
And can your 3770K stay below 70 degrees in prime95 and reach max 75 degrees in IBT when OCd to 4.5ghz?
Cause my 2600K does that. Room temp - 28 degrees while testing.
Edited by cvtmih - 6/24/12 at 1:41pm
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Going with the 3770K is not worth it if the price difference is that big. The latest 2700K chips almost always clock to 5ghz with acceptable voltage, which can't be said of the IB chips.
Besides if you can OC SB around 200 to 250mhz higher than IB they'll be even. So I'd say go with the 2700K and use the saved money on some other components.

QFT. This exactly.

Or find a used 2700K. Seen some go for $250 on other forums.
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OP was talking about the 2700K which most of them are hitting the 5ghz thanks to the higher bins (I know my 2600K couldn't and the 2700K can do it with ease.. on an H100 vs the 2600K on full water)
IB runs a lot hotter than Sandy and if you think anything under 95c is okay... eh...... we'll have to agree to disagree considering that's almost the boiling point of water. Longetivity of not just the CPU would be my concern if a part is generating that much heat on a chip.

Well cause you went with an out dated slower chip is not my fault..

I think you need to do some more reading on IB and heat my friend..
    
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Than obviously your 2600K is a bad clocker and your 3770K is a good one. Generally that's not the case.
And can your 3770K stay below 70 degrees in prime95 and reach max 75 degrees in IBT when OCd to 4.5ghz?
Cause my 2600K does that. Room temp - 28 degrees while testing.

IB is made to run like that.. What is the heat hurting nothing.. it is made for it.. LoL..

You have Sandy Bridge with a Ivy Bridge Mother board [Insert face palm here]

You really cant compare IB 1155 with SB 1155 IB beats them in every way..

What needs comparing is Socket 2011 3930x and 3960x which is on Par with a 3770k...

This is the cpus you compare with performance... http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=552

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=443

You cant match socket 2011 performance with socket 1155 Sandy Bridge but you can with Ivy Bridge....
You can even get the 3.0 pci-e bandwidth performance out of Ivy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128552

And most of all people need to quit using Heat as there excuse to justify there purchases of SB over IB..
IB was engineered to run like this.. and the heat excuses are getting old.. and almost funny at times.
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IB is made to run like that.. What is the heat hurting nothing.. it is made for it.. LoL..
You have Sandy Bridge with a Ivy Bridge Mother board [Insert face palm here]

nothing wrong with running SB on Z77. Some users got noticeably higher OCs with Z77 and SB. virtuMVP should also run on SB if you want to run that.
 
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nothing wrong with running SB on Z77. Some users got noticeably higher OCs with Z77 and SB. virtuMVP should also run on SB if you want to run that.

Yeah but your missing features and also IB 4000 on die gpu which is twice as fast as Sandys is going to work alot better with virtue mvp.

Im just really tired of hearing the heat excuses as the heat affects nothing.
    
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Get the 3770k.

My 2700k runs 5 Ghz 24/7 but I would rather have a 3770k at 4.7 or higher.

Just for reference, my 3570k beats my old 2500k which ran at 4.9 Ghz while the 3570k was at 4.7 Ghz. It beat it by at least a minute per frame while folding with a 200 Mhz deficit and way less power. Temps were the same due to the reduced voltage.

Get the Ivy Bridge!
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Than obviously your 2600K is a bad clocker and your 3770K is a good one. Generally that's not the case.
And can your 3770K stay below 70 degrees in prime95 and reach max 75 degrees in IBT when OCd to 4.5ghz?
Cause my 2600K does that. Room temp - 28 degrees while testing.

IB isn't that bad, my 3770k did stay below 70° in IBT when OCed to 4.5Ghz, with an H50 for cooling. & unlike sandy, the 3770k can do 6Ghz + with better cooling.
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IB is made to run like that.. What is the heat hurting nothing.. it is made for it.. LoL..
You have Sandy Bridge with a Ivy Bridge Mother board [Insert face palm here]
You really cant compare IB 1155 with SB 1155 IB beats them in every way..
What needs comparing is Socket 2011 3930x and 3960x which is on Par with a 3770k...
This is the cpus you compare with performance... http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=552
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=443
You cant match socket 2011 performance with socket 1155 Sandy Bridge but you can with Ivy Bridge....
You can even get the 3.0 pci-e bandwidth performance out of Ivy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128552
And most of all people need to quit using Heat as there excuse to justify there purchases of SB over IB..
IB was engineered to run like this.. and the heat excuses are getting old.. and almost funny at times.

I tend to agree about Ivy over Sandy, although for a daily driver with average cooling they do perform pretty similar, sandy might clock a bit higher, Ivy can make up some difference with better performance if sandy does OC better, but if you can get a better deal on 2600k/2700k sandy might edge out ivy in the price/performance area.
The anand links aren't working for me, but I do have 2600k, 3770k & 3930k, when it comes to full multithread performance, ivy does quite not match sb-e. Can beat it in single thread up to 8 thread yes, but if running something that uses all 12 threads of the 2011 chip, sb-e wins.
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nothing wrong with running SB on Z77. Some users got noticeably higher OCs with Z77 and SB. virtuMVP should also run on SB if you want to run that.

I got lower. Close, but I just could not clock my 2600k in a z77 board as high as it did in the p67.
    
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IB isn't that bad, my 3770k did stay below 70° in IBT when OCed to 4.5Ghz, with an H50 for cooling. & unlike sandy, the 3770k can do 6Ghz + with better cooling.
.

How much ram was that load test?

IBT differs a lot with the ram loaded onto the test and the longer the more heat it throws...

a 1024mb load gives me around @ 65c
a 14700mb load gives me as 10c higher than the standard test..
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Set to very high, using 4096Mb with an 8Gb kit. I don't think the AVX thing was kicking in, think I have the right IBT version & sp1 installed. Wasn't too worried since I don't run anything that uses AVX & don't normally stress test anyway. Might try with a different OS & try to see the difference AVX makes anyway, I know the AVX part worked before with a different drive when I was running IBT at 5.2Ghz, had double the gigaflops as this run.
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