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Perhaps it might also be beneficial to add to the end of the first line like so...
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1. Format the USB drive (ensure FAT16 or FAT32 file system)

You can also rename the bios file that is downloaded to M5F.cap and place it on the USB drive to use USBflashback

(using the white USB port on the back of the system, then pressing the ROG connect button for 3 seconds) the flash can take a little while but this way you don't have to load the bios or the OS to update.
Edited by Ardalista - 1/27/13 at 5:51am
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Wait a minute...
Flashing BIOS is simple and easy. I just posted the very easy and simple steps here.

No need for a USB stick, and even if you have one you don't need to format it.

If you have a USB stick simply follow the instructions of your Maximus V User Guide, or follow what Ardalista just posted. This is the method that can be used while you are building the rig and are not set up to boot yet. Or later if you can't boot for some reason.

But the easiest way, assuming you are able to boot to Windows and have AI Suite II installed is what I already posted here. I have done this at least 8 times on two different Asus boards over the last few weeks while testing things. Additionally, you can use the Tool menu of the BIOS to access EZ Flash 2, as was pointed out here, but the Windows method is easier for people new to this.

This is what I just wrote:
Download and unzip the newest BIOS from the Asus support website.

Then use AI Suite's Update button to get to ASUS Update. Click on Update BIOS from file, then browse for the file you just unzipped.

Please note that when you flash BIOS you will lose all your prior BIOS settings and saved profiles, so you will need to write them down or take a lot of screen shots if you want to remember them.

What am I missing as to what is easier than that for someone without a USB stick and is unfamiliar with BIOS?
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Wait a minute...
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What am I missing as to what is easier than that for someone without a USB stick and is unfamiliar with BIOS?

Well, if you don't have a USB stick or several for that matter, it seems less likely you will have a top of the line motherboard and be interested in overclocking... but maybe that's just presumption on my part (and several others apparently).

Additionally flashing from inside windows is only useful if:
1) You are running WINDOWS... some people are running LINUX... smile.gif
2) Your system is 100% stable all of the time and has never and/or will never experience an odd crash during flashing.
3) Has the utilities installed and the utilities themselves have no compatibility issues.

Personally, I will never flash my BIOS from anything but either a clean boot (to prompt only - not windows) or from a BIOS utility... but I'd hardly say that using the AI Suite is easier than renaming one file and holding down one button... or for that matter entering BIOS (which if you own one of these MBs I certainly hope you have done several times by now) and pressing a function key and selecting a file - which in most cases will be the only one found and not even require browsing.

There are a ton of points of possible failure in windows... not just the software. In BIOS or using the ROG button - only the MB and the flash drive need to operate to achieve success. In windows you have the possibility of higher RAM issues, HD failure/error, overclock stability issues, etc.
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Originally Posted by DiGiCiDAL View Post

Well, if you don't have a USB stick or several for that matter, it seems less likely you will have a top of the line motherboard and be interested in overclocking... but maybe that's just presumption on my part (and several others apparently).

Additionally flashing from inside windows is only useful if:
1) You are running WINDOWS... some people are running LINUX... smile.gif
2) Your system is 100% stable all of the time and has never and/or will never experience an odd crash during flashing.
3) Has the utilities installed and the utilities themselves have no compatibility issues.

Personally, I will never flash my BIOS from anything but either a clean boot (to prompt only - not windows) or from a BIOS utility... but I'd hardly say that using the AI Suite is easier than renaming one file and holding down one button... or for that matter entering BIOS (which if you own one of these MBs I certainly hope you have done several times by now) and pressing a function key and selecting a file - which in most cases will be the only one found and not even require browsing.

There are a ton of points of possible failure in windows... not just the software. In BIOS or using the ROG button - only the MB and the flash drive need to operate to achieve success. In windows you have the possibility of higher RAM issues, HD failure/error, overclock stability issues, etc.
I would be interested in reading the confirmed reports of how AI Suite II failed to update BIOS correctly and therefore created system instability where it did not previously exist. Since you are clearly stating this happens, can you give me a link to the reports? I am always interested in learning more.

I won't disagree that using the BIOS Tool menu to find the file and update BIOS isn't easy or theoretically better, but the original question came from someone that seemed somewhat unfamiliar with BIOS in general and didn't have a USB stick.

I am also assuming that the person has restored all default stock settings in BIOS before using AI Suite II, and therefore should eliminate the source of most OC instability.
Edited by justanoldman - 1/27/13 at 7:16am
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I would be interested in reading the confirmed reports of how AI Suite II failed to update BIOS correctly and therefore created system instability where it did not previously exist. Since you are clearly stating this happens, can you give me a link to the reports? I am always interested in learning more.

You failed to read or failed to comprehend my post - so let me clarify. All I stated was that although AI Suite is a perfectly valid way of updating your BIOS... there are reasons why I personally (and many others) would never choose to do so through the OS and prefer to do so at a much lower level of hardware involvement. Please highlight the part of my post where I said anything about something definitely happening or where I stated that instabilities were the fault of updating the BIOS... rolleyes.gif

Instabilities in Windows, on a system that is presumably overclocked to a significant level (RAM/CPU/GPU), running potentially beta drivers for GPU(s) if not other hardware, is a much, much greater likelihood than it is at the BIOS level itself. Much of the discussion leading up to this was about one or more users having blue screens IN WINDOWS... and others about incompatibilities with Windows 8 and older BIOS versions.

Is there something else that seems unreasonable about my post to you? I want to make sure that you're happy after all. biggrin.gif


But if you are intersted:
HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE. I could go on, but why?
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DiGiCiDAL,
Thanks, I honestly appreciate the information, as I am here to learn.
It worked perfectly for me over 8 times on two boards as I said, but now I know things can go wrong, and especially because people have such a variety of setups and drivers.

I will assume you are a young and therefore forgive your hostile and derogatory tone, as I forgive my own children when they act this way, and simply say thanks.
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DiGiCiDAL,
Thanks, I honestly appreciate the information, as I am here to learn.
It worked perfectly for me over 8 times on two boards as I said, but now I know things can go wrong, and especially because people have such a variety of setups and drivers.

I will assume you are a young and therefore forgive your hostile and derogatory tone, as I forgive my own children when they act this way, and simply say thanks.

I'm always amused at how people assume that they are perfectly justified in posting something that is "clearly hostile and derogatory" - and then further denigrate the responding poster if they reply in like kind. To be clear, I'm sure I'm at least as old as you are if not older - however, age is meaningless in pretty much anything but physical proficiency. On this site and others, I've read posts from 'children' that have a great deal of insight to provide... and I've been flashing BIOS updates on boards all the way back to the days when you had to use a modem to connect to a BBS to get the file - and actually in the case of a 286 board - that you had to have a new EPROM mailed to you and replace it physically. biggrin.gif

Now if I misinterpreted your condescending tone in your previous two posts, then I apologize for my similarly 'snarky' response. Regardless of tone however, you were presenting information as if the other equally valid (and in my opinion more reliable) suggestions by other posters were ridiculous or unnecessary.... I simply replied wishing to make clear for someone coming along later and reading your posts that there were indeed other reasons for choosing not to use the Windows utilities for flashing BIOS regardless of their ease of use or presumed reliability.

In any case, I'll refrain from feeding any further... wink.gif
post #1798 of 4012
you can make this very easy from bios tool or ai suite for my its working very good
good luck
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DiGiCiDAL,
Last post on the subject:
Yes you 100% misinterpreted my tone, and now I understand why you responded the way you did. My fault, I should have reread my post before submitting it to make sure it was clear I was confused, not attempting to show others were wrong.

I am new to overclocking and thus it would be more than illogical for me to be condescending on the subject. I intended to simply ASK what I was missing, thereafter was told what I was missing, then said thanks. But I still don't see why telling someone to format the USB is necessary. I am glad to find someone who is older than their overclock, now I don't feel so old.
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Hey guys, I'm glad you both resolved your issues. Lets just say both ways are useful and everyone has their own right and opinion on which way they'd rather do it.

....Clean Boot FTW biggrin.gif
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