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Originally Posted by teamrushpntball View Post

I've been searching and the only two things I fiund are either faulty board or my boot drive is going bad.

I doubt it's either... but if it's anything it could be the board (although not necessarily a 'fault'). You may have actually been overclocked while thinking you weren't. I'm not 100% positive if the MVF is the same as the MVE in this regard but I've found that the CMOS saves way more than it says it does and then subsequently 'restores' way more as well. And if you're using the utility at all... then it can be even worse! When I was working on my initial OC I at first just did the automatic at maximum (4.6GHz on 3570K) just to see what it would do. That worked great so I then cleared everything and went about manually tweaking settings to go higher... that was an absolute nightmare! Settings from the automatic OC kept getting restored - my vcore would reset, in some cases the multiples would even reset. Then I noticed that I was having similar problems with higher settings if I crashed (while >4.8GHz) - I would get the same messages, go into BIOS - see stock settings - then save and boot into Windows only to see 4.8GHz in CPUZ and then crash again a little while later.

It wasn't until awhile later that I figured it out... I was using both BIOS and the AI utility - and basically they exist separately as well as collaboratively it seems... changes made in the utility are reflected in BIOS - but those made in BIOS are not necessarily reflected in the utility. So if you are using a combination of the two you can get a really 'confused' system. Since then I've uninstalled and reinstalled the utility (wiping everything during uninstall) and only use the utility for non-OC functions (monitoring, audio settings, fan smart settings). Ever since then I've not had any issues.

Not sure that it applies to you since you didn't mention using the utility to adjust BIOS settings, but it's important to make note of it because if you did it just might be re-applying your previously failed overclock settings once you get into Windows... hence triggering the error message flag again on reboot.
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Wow, you guys were rich with those fancy computers in the 80s.wink.gif
I had to work all summer to save up for an Atari 400. Who wouldn't love a membrane keyboard?

Not that rich, in my case, an Atari XE was a bit pricey but not that much (a little more expensive than the Nintendo Entertainment System... A total failure since the NES was much better but the XE had many aftermarket accessories / extensions, like a keyboard, etc.) and the Amstrad CPC 464 was not expensive, it was a family computer with a monochrome screen and games on magnetic tapes, like these:



The Amstrad CPC 6128 was the more expensive one, because it has 128kb of RAM instead of 64kb!!111!!11! and it didn't use tapes but instead, it used this state-of-the art marvel of technology called 3"1/4 floppy disks:



Hey, these things had a 360 kb capacity! A beast! biggrin.gif You'd just wait 5 minutes for loading a color game. But i was poor so I had the 464 and I used to wait 30 minutes for B&W games frown.gif

Then in the 90's I had a Nec PC-Engine for console, aaaand the absolute king of 16-bit computers, ladies and gentlemen, I introduce you to the Commodore Amiga 500:



This thing was huge for its time, look what it was able to do in 1989:

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... I'm way to young to know what any of those are sadly.. My oldest PC is a Pentium 4 dual core...

You know what, my first PC build was also a Pentium IV (single core) 2.0Ghz back in 2000... with an MSI board and a 64mb GPU... biggrin.gif

After Amiga & Nec, I lost interest in computers & video games in 1995 and I was not up-to-date until 2000..
/
So,

Hey, so I wanted to buy a USB flash drive and a cable... aaaand it's the end of the month, I don't even have money anymore....

So I'll have to wait a couple of days and you'll have to wait too for my submission as I can't upload pics of my system without this darned USB cable... Sorry for this, I promise I'll do it in the first days of February.
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I doubt it's either... but if it's anything it could be the board (although not necessarily a 'fault'). You may have actually been overclocked while thinking you weren't. I'm not 100% positive if the MVF is the same as the MVE in this regard but I've found that the CMOS saves way more than it says it does and then subsequently 'restores' way more as well. And if you're using the utility at all... then it can be even worse! When I was working on my initial OC I at first just did the automatic at maximum (4.6GHz on 3570K) just to see what it would do. That worked great so I then cleared everything and went about manually tweaking settings to go higher... that was an absolute nightmare! Settings from the automatic OC kept getting restored - my vcore would reset, in some cases the multiples would even reset. Then I noticed that I was having similar problems with higher settings if I crashed (while >4.8GHz) - I would get the same messages, go into BIOS - see stock settings - then save and boot into Windows only to see 4.8GHz in CPUZ and then crash again a little while later.

It wasn't until awhile later that I figured it out... I was using both BIOS and the AI utility - and basically they exist separately as well as collaboratively it seems... changes made in the utility are reflected in BIOS - but those made in BIOS are not necessarily reflected in the utility. So if you are using a combination of the two you can get a really 'confused' system. Since then I've uninstalled and reinstalled the utility (wiping everything during uninstall) and only use the utility for non-OC functions (monitoring, audio settings, fan smart settings). Ever since then I've not had any issues.

Not sure that it applies to you since you didn't mention using the utility to adjust BIOS settings, but it's important to make note of it because if you did it just might be re-applying your previously failed overclock settings once you get into Windows... hence triggering the error message flag again on reboot.

By AI utility you mean the Asus Suite in windows correct? If so I never used that for anything other than fan control.

I did reset CMOS, then loaded in the default settings in the BIOS. Seems to be booting to Windows now, but I haven't tried to OC again. But now, POST is taking a good 45-60 seconds. Thinking maybe my CMOS battery is dying?
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I would like to join your club please
my rig is still a work in progress I got some gpu blocks and another radiator on the way and still got alot of tidying up to do

But My question is has anyone had the bios not saving changes problem with 1604 bios?
My work around has been use cmos switch then ener bios settings once and save but don't alter the bios unless using cmos again,then it seems ok.
But when I load from a save file it shows in bios but at stock in windows.
Edited by feznz - 1/29/13 at 9:14pm
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If you would like to join the club please upload a picture of your Motherboard.
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I would like to join your club please
my rig is still a work in progress I got some gpu blocks and another radiator on the way and still got alot of tidying up to do
But My question is has anyone had the bios not saving changes problem with 1604 bios?
My work around has been use cmos switch then ener bios settings once and save then it seems ok. but when I load from a save file it shows in bios but at stock in windows

Welcome to the club, I'm sure others can help you out with your bios issue. Also congratulations on being our 101st member!
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If you would like to join the club please upload a picture of your Motherboard.
Welcome to the club, I'm sure others can help you out with your bios issue. Also congratulations on being our 101st member!
Thanks lucky number #101
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By AI utility you mean the Asus Suite in windows correct? If so I never used that for anything other than fan control.

I did reset CMOS, then loaded in the default settings in the BIOS. Seems to be booting to Windows now, but I haven't tried to OC again. But now, POST is taking a good 45-60 seconds. Thinking maybe my CMOS battery is dying?
Theres a setting in bios to increase/decrease post display time. CMOS battery just supplies a tiny amount of electricity to maintain memory while computer is off. wouldn't cause this.
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My MVE is in RMA right now because of that same/similar issue. I never use the utility except to occasionally adjust vcore while stability testing. I have never used it to overclock. But I can flash bios and everything runs as it should. I overclock with manual voltages until I find the right voltage, then switch t0 offset. Once I switch to offset, no changes in bios transfer to the OS. If I am running 4.5 and change the multiplier to 48 and adjust voltage save an exit. Back in the OS it is running at the exact same 4.5 it was before. I go back to bios and all the new settings are there , they just don't affect anything. I can set defaults and the settings save but I'm still running at 4.5. I've reset CMOS and everything else and nothing will make them change except flashing bios. That was the way I sent it in for RMA the first time. I set everything in bios to defaults, saved and exited. The bios retained the default setttings but in the OS I was running 4.5. I asked for a new bios chip. When I got it back, I set it up on the bench and booted into windows at 4.5, went to bios and everything was set to defaults. Which means they didn't do anything to it. Trying to get info out of tech support is like pulling hen's teeth. So, I asked for a new board and am supposed to be getting an advanced RMA with a new board ( credit card, of course). I sure hope this thing works. You just can't get anything done by email. Ask a question and you get a useless answer in 4 or 5 days. So, the only results I've received is calling customer support, on my dime. But, it is worth it as they are very nice and helpful. So far, I have received almost anything I wanted. We'll see when the board arrives.
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My MVE is in RMA right now because of that same/similar issue. I never use the utility except to occasionally adjust vcore while stability testing. I have never used it to overclock. But I can flash bios and everything runs as it should. I overclock with manual voltages until I find the right voltage, then switch t0 offset. Once I switch to offset, no changes in bios transfer to the OS. If I am running 4.5 and change the multiplier to 48 and adjust voltage save an exit. Back in the OS it is running at the exact same 4.5 it was before. I go back to bios and all the new settings are there , they just don't affect anything. I can set defaults and the settings save but I'm still running at 4.5. I've reset CMOS and everything else and nothing will make them change except flashing bios. That was the way I sent it in for RMA the first time. I set everything in bios to defaults, saved and exited. The bios retained the default setttings but in the OS I was running 4.5. I asked for a new bios chip. When I got it back, I set it up on the bench and booted into windows at 4.5, went to bios and everything was set to defaults. Which means they didn't do anything to it. Trying to get info out of tech support is like pulling hen's teeth. So, I asked for a new board and am supposed to be getting an advanced RMA with a new board ( credit card, of course). I sure hope this thing works. You just can't get anything done by email. Ask a question and you get a useless answer in 4 or 5 days. So, the only results I've received is calling customer support, on my dime. But, it is worth it as they are very nice and helpful. So far, I have received almost anything I wanted. We'll see when the board arrives.

I never had this problem on 704 bios or 604 bios and 1501 was just unstable. I havn't tried to flash back to 704 or 604 to confirm this because I just have a smother running windows diffinitely smother in many aspects with the 1604 bios. I hope you have a speedy RMA so you can post your findings. my last 3 boards have been Asus and I got this feeling that a new bios will be out shortly and probably another 10 after that just like my last 3 boards have been Asus. but I just love the aesethics and features of Asus.
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