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I went 1155 after the Chinese reviews of Haswell were showing only marginal increases over Ivy or Sandy. The 2600k was an easy choice because A) It overclocks easily, and B) package deal with my Max V Gene for $300. biggrin.gif
    
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I got my 2nd GTX 660 Ti today. Installation was a breeze. I am excited, but.... I ran 3dmark11 and scored 11723. It is saying that with my hardware I should be in the 1400s. I can't figure out what the problem is. No C states are enabled, I am running my cpu at 4.5GHz, and I have overclocked from the stock GTX 660 Ti TOP's settings. Which helped out by 200 points, but I am still WAY low. It also says it was using only 1/4 processors. ***? Anyone have any ideas?

I also got another 660 Ti over the weekend that won't show up in bios. It was free, so maybe I will send it off. Previous owner tried to RMA, but asus refused because the SN sticker appears to have gotten wet.

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I went 1155 after the Chinese reviews of Haswell were showing only marginal increases over Ivy or Sandy. The 2600k was an easy choice because A) It overclocks easily, and B) package deal with my Max V Gene for $300. biggrin.gif

Not to mention Sandy doesnt put out anywhere near the same heat as Ivy or Haswell thumb.gif
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Not to mention Sandy doesnt put out anywhere near the same heat as Ivy or Haswell thumb.gif


You're wrong, it puts off MORE heat.  Higher TDP = more heat generated.  How hot a CPU core is runs does not determine the amount of heat generated.

 

Example, an AMD Thuban had a TDP of 130W or so, even though they only ran around 45-50C, they put off more heat than an Intel Ivy Bridge 77W CPU running at 85C.

 

Don't beleive me?  Ask Bill Nye:

 

post #2945 of 4012
According to Intel, the Tcase of a 2600k is 72.6°C, vs the 3770k with 67.4°C. As I understand Tcase, it's the maximum temperature of the maximum TDP of a processor. Despite the Ivy i7's TDP being 18W lower than Sandy, its Tcase is only 5°C lower. Unless I'm misunderstanding these numbers, the second gen chips are more thermally efficient at their maximum TDP and arguably beyond. For purposes of CPU cooling and overclocking, doesn't this make it easier to cool a 4.5 clocked Sandy vs a 4.5 clocked Ivy chip?
    
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Basically in my previous post all I ment was Ivy and Haswell have been proven to have crap TIM on the chips themselves therefore Sandy is still the better option when it comes to overclocking and heat dispersal

This is what I meant ok a Sandy i5-2500K @4.5GHz under for arguments sake a Corsair H100 is easier to cool then its NON delidded 4.5GHz Ivy and Haswell counterparts

So the heat vs performance Sandy is still one of the best to go for if its just for gaming if you want a simple small rig thats easy to cool at something like 4.5GHz
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post #2947 of 4012
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Originally Posted by Aussiejuggalo View Post

Basically in my previous post all I ment was Ivy and Haswell have been proven to have crap TIM on the chips themselves therefore Sandy is still the better option when it comes to overclocking and heat dispersal

This is what I meant ok a Sandy i5-2500K @4.5GHz under for arguments sake a Corsair H100 is easier to cool then its NON delidded 4.5GHz Ivy and Haswell counterparts

So the heat vs performance Sandy is still one of the best to go for if its just for gaming if you want a simple small rig thats easy to cool at something like 4.5GHz

 

I knew what you meant, but you are using the term heat incorrectly, that was what I was trying to point out.  Clearly that point was lost, as your last sentence is still incorrect. 

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Does no one bother to answer other club members questions anymore?
post #2949 of 4012
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I got my 2nd GTX 660 Ti today. Installation was a breeze. I am excited, but.... I ran 3dmark11 and scored 11723. It is saying that with my hardware I should be in the 1400s. I can't figure out what the problem is. No C states are enabled, I am running my cpu at 4.5GHz, and I have overclocked from the stock GTX 660 Ti TOP's settings. Which helped out by 200 points, but I am still WAY low. It also says it was using only 1/4 processors. ***? Anyone have any ideas?

I also got another 660 Ti over the weekend that won't show up in bios. It was free, so maybe I will send it off. Previous owner tried to RMA, but asus refused because the SN sticker appears to have gotten wet.

Not as familiar with Nvidia as AMD, but driver issue or check control panel to enable sli config. Also lack of response seems to be the way of the "new ocn order". Community has changed.
    
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Can't answer questions until my two 680s arrive and I fire up SLI for the first time. Who knows, I might end up with the same problem. redface.gif

Anubis, whatcha think 'bout my reasoning earlier re: Tcase between 2600k & 3770k?
Edited by BBEG - 6/4/13 at 3:49pm
    
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