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Is virtual memory all that good?

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I was wondering if I was to buy a cheap 20gb Sata HDD and use all of it as virtual memory would it be that good I know that there is a max amount u can need but no info for the sake of keeping the drive going as fast as it can go.
but would it be that good? Really?
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Not really, you're better off moving the page file to a separate drive but even then I doubt it will make much of a difference

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virtual memory is slower than ram.
a noticable differnece
milli seconds vs nano seconds
(thats what my comp sci teacher said)
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i think what he's askin tho, is would it be better to buy a drive for it.. well IMHO it would be best (from a pagefile point of view) to have it on a clean dedicated drive. but, i wouldnt expect too much performance gains from that alone. i would simply put your page file off the boot drive, and onto the drive least full\\least accessed by different programs. so. if you;ve got the extra drive, sure it would be the best that way. but if you dont, i cant see it worth the $$ just to dedicate a pagedrive
    
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virtual memory is almost useless. You don't really need a separate drive for it...
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i've even tried disabling it... ran fine, not better... but you get those annoying OOVM popups
    
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For the money you would be far better off adding to your system ram - you don't have your system specs posted, but IMO Xp needs 512, and shines with >=1Gb. (I know it runs on less but have you used XP with 128mb ram? I have that sort of setup for my telly and it struggles.)

The more ram - the les your swap should be used anyway!

ps I've never seen a 20Gb sata drive - the smallest we can get from our suppliers is 80gb and even they are being replaced by 120's.
    
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Lol i got a 40GB in this pos DELL ><
(Bought a 250 to compensate tho.. )
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The Virtual memory ( Paging file ) Is not useless is anyway. Let me explain.

When RAM is being Heavily utilized the Paging file is bought into play to be used as Virtual RAM to store temporary data for Quick or later access.

If you dont have it the Physical RAM in your system can get heavily bogged down leading to bad system performance in some cases.

Have the Paging file on another Drive is also better as it takes the READ/WRITES stress off your MAIN OS HDD leading to slightley better performance.

THE PAGING FILE: There are two types of memory which helps XP fuction correctly.One is physical memory ( RAM ) and the other is Virtual Memory, referred to as the paging file. This is an area of your hard disk used as a buffer when RAM is low on resources. If you have another harddisk installed in your p.c you can move the paging file there and reduce the stress of two activities on your main harddisk.

Step 1: Reducing the work on your main harddisk can speed up application response times ( This will only benefit you if you have another harddisk ). Open ''System properties'' in the ''Control panel'' and select ''advanced''.

Step 2: Under ''Performance'' click on ''Settings'' then select ''Advanced''. Go to ''Virtual Memory'' and click on ''Change'' to see your current settings. At the moment ''C:'' will be selected so click to highlight your other drive instead.

Step 3: Having selected a different drive you can choose the ''custom size'' option and set an ''Initial Size'' and ''Maximum size'' for the paging file. Or opt for the ''System managed'' size and XP will decide whats best for you.
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Straight from the XP optimiser guide.........

Even tho I have a raptor raid array as primary - I still use my first secondary partition as a swapfile.

I wonder if we have much to learn from LINUX - when I fiddled with it a while ago I remember it created a separate partition for swap.
    
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