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post #1 of 25
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Hello,

In an attempt to keep this concise hear are the facts:
- I want to build a gaming PC
- This will be my first gaming PC
- My knowledge is limited but I am learning lots about PC’s.
- I hope to run titles such as: BF3, Crysis 2 and Arma 3 on at least medium but ideally high settings.
- I am not definitively sure how much I want to spend but preferably £800-£900 at the most.

In light of my research over the past few weeks and the goal I have in mind, these are the components I am looking at:

Case: CoolerMaster CMStorm Trooper
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500k
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80 Liquid Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
GPU: GTX 560 / GTX 560Ti / GTX 570

Obviously I still need a PSU, HDD and will probably get an SSD (Boot Drive). I would also like to get a second GPU in SLI or Crossfire further down the road so please bear that in mind if you recommend a different Mobo.

Any advice on the parts I have chosen (especially whether the 570 is worth it etc.) and those that I have not (PSU etc.) is welcome. In short, please list any recommendations to finish and/or improve this list.

Thank you in advance.
Edited by ZeroSkore - 6/24/12 at 2:14pm
post #2 of 25
For the mobo, get yourself a ASRock Z77 Pro4 or Extreme4. The first should be about $15 cheaper the second $10 more than the one you picked. Both are overall better boards and will also give you room to expand to Ivy Bridge if you wish.

The 570 would be worth it but the 560 Ti is still a great card. The 560 Ti is definitely better value than both of those cards but the 570 would be worth the extra money if you want the extra FPS.

For the PSU I would suggest Corsair they sell great quality PSUs and have a great warranty. The more you spend the more you get, not just in wattage but also in features like being modular or better protection and reliability (like comparing the CX to the GS to the TX to the HX and AX series). Depending on your budget depends on which one to get, don't cheap out if you don't have to, especially not on the PSU. The TX series is a good mix of price and quality but if you can afford them the HX and AX series are better.

For your HDD, Western Digital and Seagate are the industry leaders and are great drives (I know from experience not just reviews).

For your SSD if it is just for your boot drive a 64GB Crucial M4 should be fine or if you want to keep key components on there possibly a 120GB Intel 330 series or OCZ Vertex series would be down your ally.

The CM Storm Trooper is a good case but I guess you can call me a NZXT fanboy when I recommend the NZXT Phantom, but that is for a good reason. It is actually a little bit cheaper and is an excellent case. It has amazing airflow and upgradeability and I just love the way it looks personally. There is a little bit of personal preference involved when it comes to cases but I have always found NZXTs great to work with and of excellent build quality so I must suggest one any time I have the chance.
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post #3 of 25
If you do not plan on overclocking dont buy the k series it is unlocked for overclocking . and if you are not gonna overclock and get a 2500 cpu the stock heatsink is fine. even the 2500k can be overclocked to around 4-4.2ghz on the stock heatsink. Honestly though you can get an overclock of 4.6-4.7ghz with one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 . Just an idea if you wanted to save a few bucks because the ssd is gonna be expensive. A nice video card is worth it because technology moves fast and its hard to keep up with game's graphics. The mobo seems nice but the reviews would make me not buy it. i own this board and know a few people with it and everyone is happy. maybe im a little bias but the reviews are good and as far as having what you need it has plenty, and if you do want to overclock it can handle a decent clock. i got 5.2ghz no problems so far. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
this psu is a little overkill on power probably for sli even, but the price is right and its good to have more power than not enough. gotta love the modular also. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thank you for the quick replies, you've given me a fair bit to think about.

@l3ubba
I do plan on over clocking otherwise a H80 would be overkill but will likely look into some other CPU coolers now.
The 212 seems to have some mixed reviews in terms of high over clocks although it is good value.

Anyway need to go to bed, 11pm here, and I'm sitting my final exam in about nine and half hours.
Once again thank you for the quick and informed responses.
post #5 of 25
Here's a complete alternative build. Superior processor, quieter cooler, no SLI upgrade capability (I don't think it's useful unless you're going multi-monitor, and it saves money to not do so), and a pretty decent case. No monitor, windows, or peripherals included. All items were from scan.co.uk, because I didn't want to take the trouble to look at other retailers. You may be able to find some parts cheaper in other locations.

CPU - i5-3570k (168)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-3570k1155-ivy-bridge-quad-core-34ghz-5-gt-s-dmi-650mhz-gpu-6mb-smart-cache-34x-ratio-7

Motherboard - Gigabyte Z77 (72)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-z77-ds3h-intel-z77-s-1155-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-30-(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-a

CPU Cooler - HR-02 Macho (39)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/thermalright-hr-02-macho-cpu-cooler-with-140mm-silent-fan-for-775-1155-1156-1366-amd-am2-am3

GPU - Palit 670 (300)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-palit-gtx-670-28nm-pcie-30-(x16)-6008mhz-gddr5-gpu-915mhz-boost-980mhz-cores-1344-2x-dl-dvi-dp-h
A high end graphics card that should do most games on maximum and the hardest on extremely high settings (assuming 1920x1080 monitor).

RAM - 2x4gb 1600mhz (42)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-xms3-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-9-9-24-15v

Case - Fractal Design r3 (73)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/fractal-design-define-r3-usb-30-black-pearl-mid-tower-case-new-cable-routing-noise-absorbing-w-o-psu
Also comes in different colors.

PSU - Be Quiet 430w (37)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/430w-bequiet-bn105-pure-power-l7-80plus-sli-120mm-fan

SSD - Samsung 830 128gb (78)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/128gb-samsung-830-series-ssd-basic-kit-sata-iii-read-520mb-s-write-320mb-s

HDD - Seagate 1TB (64)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-seagate-st31000524as-barracuda-720012-sata-6gb-s-7200rpm-32mb-cache-85ms-ncq

DVD-burner (13)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/sony-ad-7280s-0b-24x-dvdr-12xdvddl-dvdplusrw-x8-rwx6-12xram-sata-black-oem

Total - 886 pounds. Dunno how much shipping will be.

Best ways to spend more money:
Upgrade your monitor situation.
Get a motherboard capable of handling SLI. Paired with get a PSU capable of handling SLI.
Get ever MOAR hard drive space.
Get fancier peripherals.

Best ways to spend less money:
Get a non-overclockable processor (i5-3450 + H77 mobo, drop the HR-02)
Get a crappier video card (like one of the ones you were thinking about, or a 7850)
Get a crappier case.
Drop the SSD.
Edited by MisterFred - 6/24/12 at 8:45pm
    
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post #6 of 25
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Originally Posted by MisterFred View Post

Total - 886 pounds.


Whoa. That's heavy. tongue.gif
post #7 of 25
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@MisterFred
Thank you for the suggestions; the HDD and SSD suggestions you made look promising.
I have a preference for Nvidia cards especially when using two so SLI is a must really.
Once again thanks for the suggestions and any more are welcome.
post #8 of 25
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[INPUT PLEASE] Using suggestions made in this thread and further research on my part I've pretty much chosen all my components; all that remains to be chosen is a case and a GPU.

I'm pretty set on getting a GTX 570 (Unless someone gives compelling evidence as to why I shouldn't..) but I don't know which model to go for; Any assistance in picking 'the best' 570 for my build would be greatly appreciated.

The final piece of the puzzle is the all important case; originally I was set on getting the CM Storm Trooper as it seemed, to me, to be one of the best cases on the market.
Since then a couple of people have suggested the NZXT Phantom; unfortunately, from my research it would appear that this case (Phantom) has inferior airflow, not enough dust covers for fans (All the fans on the Trooper are covered) and can't take the range of CPU coolers available with the Trooper.

Am I missing something or is the Phantom significantly inferior to, for example, the CM Storm Trooper? If not, please correct me with evidence or suggest a case that you feel is superior to both the above mentioned cases.

Thanks in advance.
post #9 of 25
Zero - on the subject of a case........... The LianLi Lancool K62 is an outstanding case and a real value for the money. It is getting long in the tooth now, but you'll find a huge support and customization community here and elsewhere on the net. IMHO you simply cannot beat this case for the price;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112239&Tpk=lianli%20lancool%20k62
And if you shop around you can usually find one on sale for less than that.

While the GTX570 is another part that is getting long in the tooth, it is still a very good card. If you can find one on sale it might be a good choice. I've been running two in SLi for about a year now and they simply smoke. But keep in mind that at resolutions up to 1920x1080 with reasonable eye candy a single 570 will work just fine. Personally I'm running the eVGA SC versions of the card, but anything from eVGA, XFX, MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, Powercolor etc. will be just fine. Pick one that has a cooler design you like, good cooling capabilities and near silent operation.

Not sure where you live at, but if you can order from Newegg;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127682

At that price the MSI card is a steal. Of course you can buy a factory overclocked card, but honestly you should be able to get a decent core overclock out of that MSI card without much effort.

I like the previous suggestion about opting for one of the ASRock boards, but there certainly isn't anything wrong with the Gigabyte UD3H board either. I'm currently running the UD4 board and it is pretty solid, except pretty barren in features compared to some other alternatives out there.
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post #10 of 25
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@wevsspot
Thank you for the case suggestion I'll definitely look into it.
Also thanks for the GTX 570 advice/guidance. Unfortunately newegg is unavailable to me as I hail from the UK, so that is not an option but, never the less, your guidance has reinforced my GPU decision and I'll keep looking for 'the best'.

If anyone can point me in the direction of a good 570 deal available to those in the UK I would be very grateful and case suggestions are still welcome.

Again, thanks in advance.
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