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post #1 of 27
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-I have this question posted on multiple forums so bare with me here as my replies will be much slower.
-AS FOR THE PEOPLE recommending me WC I honestly feel intimidated by it. I chose an air cooling case but I still am not sure to choose a water cooling enabled one since I am not positive if I go WC in the future.
-I will order from mostly canadian sites but will order from other places if necessary. The preferred retailer list I posted isn't that vital.

UNAVAILABLE ON NEWEGG CANADA:

Monitor: Dell UltraSharp U2312HM
CPU HSF: Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E
Headphones: Sennheiser PC 350 or 360
Tablet: Wacom Bamboo Splash

This is my first build from scratch my gaming orientation leans on rpgs, mmos, action-adventure and rts for the most part and less so for fps and racing games.

Approximate Purchase Date:
By the end of July
Budget Range:
Under $3k subtotal including everything base system, monitor, peripherals etc…
System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Extensive gaming and production/rendering in autodesk and other 3D/CG art software
Parts Not Required:
Not planning on getting a custom water cooling system just yet
Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Newegg Canada
TigerDirect Canada
Canada Computers
NCIX
Country:
Canada
Parts Preferences:
Nvidia, visuals for the most part
Storage Space:
2TB minimum
Overclocking:
Likely
SLI or Crossfire:
Possibly SLI
Monitor Resolution:
1920x1080 or 2560x1440. I would like to have games on maxed settings, AA would be nice and what ever gaming technology optimization available
Additional Comments:
my newegg wishlist

anything sold out on the list i will look for else where, as long as they have good enough return policy

Really looking for some of the top and latest support with longevity, durability and silence

the rig would be placed in the basement which is usually around 20C, during the humid summer it should be closer to 30C room temp but we almost always AC then. the only thing about the basement i am worried about is if airflow wouldn't be good enough for the rig

would a heatsink fan suffice for now? if i ever choose to SLI would water cooling be needed then?
Edited by TBGAPowa - 6/27/12 at 9:01am
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post #2 of 27
Meh on the 2700K, I have never really liked it. The 2600K is basically the same CPU just downclocked so I would say just buy that and OC.

Besides for that, you don't even need close to 1200W but it looks good. I would say bump that down to 650W or 850W max if you want a lot of headroom.
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post #3 of 27
What would be the point in Z77 and a Sandy Bridge chip? Might as well save a bit and go with Z68 if you are getting a 2700K
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post #4 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by vs17e View Post

What would be the point in Z77 and a Sandy Bridge chip? Might as well save a bit and go with Z68 if you are getting a 2700K

Z77 gives him room to upgrade to Ivy, actually I would just suggest getting the 3770K anyway, with the money saved from the lesser PSU that I mentioned.
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post #5 of 27
IMHO, you dont need more then 1500$ for a 1080p rig ... and that is to RUN EVERYTHING ON MAX!

But hay you got the money!


get

8gb ram
670 gtx or a 7970
2600k or a 3770
Mobo with a few support for 2 video cards in Xfire or SLI
find a case you like!
get two 128 gb ssd x2 and raid 0 them and get 1tb for what ever drive
PSU well ... 750 watts woudl be more then enough
get a hyper 212 and well u have it done ...
Edited by Jackeduphard - 6/24/12 at 5:56pm
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post #6 of 27
Thread Starter 
yeah i will go with 850w psu, what do you think about the Intel Core i7-3930K?
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post #7 of 27
Lol, "upgrading to ivy" from SB when IB isn't that much better is stupid. Z77 is pointless on SB.
post #8 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBGAPowa View Post

yeah i will go with 850w psu, what do you think about the Intel Core i7-3930K?
Overpriced and not much better than the 3770K
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post #9 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackeduphard View Post

IMHO, you dont need more then 1500$ for a 1080p rig ... and that is to RUN EVERYTHING ON MAX!
But hay you got the money!
get
8gb ram
670 gtx or a 7970
2600k or a 3770
Mobo with a few support for 2 video cards in Xfire or SLI
find a case you like!
get two 128 gb ssd x2 and raid 0 them and get 1tb for what ever drive
PSU well ... 750 watts woudl be more then enough
hey a hyper 212 and well u have it done ...

I agree with everything except raiding ssds. You won't see dramatic performance gain.
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post #10 of 27
Thread Starter 
are the ssds really necessary? and what if i go larger than 1080 i might switch to IPS screen over LCD for better detail and colour for 3d/2d art rendering

also the i am changing the case fans to other cooler master, gelid or xigmatek what case fans should i go with and are when are they really necessary?
Edited by TBGAPowa - 6/24/12 at 7:37pm
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Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB  Samsung 830 256GB ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24x DVD-Writer Noctua NH-D14 
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Windows 7 Professional 64 bit Dell Ultrasharp U2412M Corsair Vengeance K90  Corsair AX850 
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