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Hi Guys,

I'm in south asia region and this time around I'm going to stick with mainstream brands that I can buy locally. Better to be safe than sorry as four years back I had ordered parts from abroad and many of the parts came dead and I was not able to RMA them as it would cost me more to ship the items back than buy new ones. Past aside, now I sort of have a dilemma deciding the best choice of parts for a "4 channel Hexa-Core" build, so I thought I'll seek out help finalizing build.

Now, I'm not planning to do crazy overclocking other than upping the processor to 4.2 GHz or more without playing around with the settings much. I just do not want any of the parts introduce a bottleneck. I'd love some recommendations with motherboard, sound card, and PSU for sure as I'm not entirely sure what to choose.

So here goes the 4ch hexa core build:

Chassis: CM 690 II Advanced. (comes with two silent fans attached I figure)
I think this is a good chassis this build. Let me know if the choice of chassis is bad.


Chassis Fans: 2 x XtraFlo 120 Slim.
Adding to the existing fans it totals up to four fans to control ventilation. I'm thinking of pushing air IN from the front + top, AND push air OUT through back + side.


Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz, 12 MB Cache.
It's Sandy Bridge-E I think. I want to overclock it just about enough while keeping settings as close to stock as possible... a safe zone of sorts as I have a very traumatic experience of burning up dad's expensive processor in his office workstation last year. Obviously I'm very in experienced when it comes to overclocking and have come to believe its not meant for me as I don't have the money to bear the accidental loss. So, how much can I push it with minimal voltage changes? 4.2 Ghz? 4.6 Ghz? What can I expect?


Processor Cooler: CORSAIR H100 (liquid cooler).
I read very good reviews about it and being a non-maintenance liquid cooler is also a great plus. My choice of chassis is also designed to fit this cooler so it sounds like a perfect choice.... what do you guys think?


RAM: 4 x Corsair Vengeance 4GB DDR3 1600MHz.
I'm pretty sure this is what I want. 16 GB of ram should be able to shine on Win 7 64-Bit right? Should I get the memory fans from corsair as well or is that not necessary?


Motherboard: Please recommend.
I can only get one of these brands locally: ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, or Intel.


Graphics Card: 2 x GeForce GTX 680 (to run on SLi). OR 1 x GeForce GTX 690.
Is there any benefits going SLi over dual GPU? If brand makes a difference please do recommend one. I can only get one of these brands locally: ZOTAC, ASUS, or Gigabyte.


Speakers: Logitech Z523 OR Logitech Z623. 2.1 Systems
My home theater and 55" LED TV are just in the other side of the room, plus I don't want to clutter my desk like my current Creative 5.1 T6060. So I thought of getting Logitech Z523 but a lot of people I know said it will be a downgrade from my current four year old creative t6060 even with the rear and center speakers put away. I'm not too sure what to choose.... so threw in Logitech Z623 on the table as well. I'm not too keen about spending a fortune on a 2.1 system but I do want a quality speaker system...


Sound Card: Please recommend... OR do I even need one?
I can only get one of these brands locally: ASUS or Creative. Most of my entertainment will be routed to my 55" LED TV and Home Theater via HDMI from my graphics card, so people tell me I don't need to invest in a sound card as my home theater system would take care of processing the digital audio. Even so I would like to get excellent audio when I play mmorpgs with my twin on the PC itself. Online games are the only things I don't play on my 55" TV. Would the on-board audio of these high-end motherboards handle that?


HDD: 1 x 120GB Corsair SSD, and 1 x 1TB SATA II Seagate.
I plan to install Windows 7 and all my software on the 120GB SSD and all other stuff on the 1TB Seagate. Is that the right way to get best performance?


Power Supply: Silent Pro Hybrid 1050W OR Silent Pro Gold 1000W
I'm not sure which to get. Do I need to get a 1200W? is 1000W really needed to run all the specs so far? I would like to cut some cost on PSU if possible.


UPS: APC Back-UPS Pro 1500
This is the highest available, but I'm worried about the watt output. It says 865 Watts / 1500 VA.... does that mean my power supply (1000W+) will not be able to function well during peaks? If I can't buy this UPS then what else can I get?


Keyboard and Mouse: Please recommend.
I can only get the following brands: Logitech OR Microsoft. I currently have a Logitech MX 5000 and it served me extremely well for four years now! I was planning to get Logitech MX 5500 Revolution as a potential upgrade until last year but now it seems Logitech is no-longer offering its rechargeable series of combo (see here). What would give me the same feel and performance of MX 5000? I'm terribly addicted to the touch volume and zoom control it provided on the left side of the keyboard but that's not important. The mouse felt so perfect in my hands~


What I use the system for:

I will have it on for about 18 hours everyday. On some rare days I would give it few extra hours of well deserved break if I get engrossed with a console game.

- Work on web development projects
- Intensive 3D modeling and animation for game development on some months when I'm inspired.
- Play several hours of MMORPGs.
- Play PC Games on max settings via HDMI to my 55" LED TV.
- Watch lots of animes and movies via HDMI to my 55" LED TV.
- Heavy video processing (infrequently)

Looking forward to your interesting posts!
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I've been talking with my local supplier on pricing and such and decided to go with the crazy build even if its an overkill as I'm building two of these exact systems (twins), reducing the pricing of the parts is not giving me any significant reduction other than $300-$400 total of the $8000 spend.

I think I'm going to get myself a Corsair 850W or Cooler Master 1000W as both their pricing are the same.

Now, I'm trying to decide on a mother board:

1) Asus MotherBoard - Rampage IV

2) ASUS P9X79 DELUXE

3) ASUS Sabertooth X79

Which board do you think is the nicest of the three?
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2 x STATA Seagate 320 GB (16MB Buffer) Windows XP Professional 32 Bit SP2 Dell 22" Widescreen Logitech MX5000 Bluethooth 
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2 x STATA Seagate 320 GB (16MB Buffer) Windows XP Professional 32 Bit SP2 Dell 22" Widescreen Logitech MX5000 Bluethooth 
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I'll vote for the Sabertooth. You don't need the rampage since you don't plan on OCing too high. But if the price are close, get the Rampage Formula for the better on-board sound. All 3 boards are solid choices regardless though so you can simply get whichever is cheaper. Rampage IV Extreme is a very popular choice here in OCN but I don't think you will use even half the features you've paid for it to be worth the cost.

For the rest of your system, here are some places you can cut prices on
1.) Get only 1x680 or even drop down to a 670. Unless you are gaming on 3 or more monitors, the single 680 will be more than enough for 1080p.
2.) Do headphones sit well with you? That should avoid clutter. Otherwise, if people are telling you that the T6060 is still better even with the center and rear tweeters put away, why not try putting them away first? If you don't like it, then buy the Z523. note that if you put the 3 tweeters away, it'll become a 2.1 system, so make sure you setup windows to treat it as a 2.1 system and not 5.1.
Another idea is to check if your home theater accepts SPDIF in. If it does, then simply remove the 3 tweeters on the T6060 to remove clutter, then route an SPDIF cable to your home theater. Since that's where most of your entertainment is being routed anyway.
3.) Sound card, imo, you don't need 1. On-board is good enough and since you will be spending your time mostly in the home theater, a discreet card is hardly worth it.
4.) Get the corsair 850w or a PSU that's atleast 700w. I don't think you'll hit 700.

For keyboard and mouse, I prefer to try them in the store before I buy them. Check the keyboard and see if the keys sit well with me and make sure that the mouse fits my hand.
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I've been talking with my local supplier on pricing and such and decided to go with the crazy build even if its an overkill as I'm building two of these exact systems (twins), reducing the pricing of the parts is not giving me any significant reduction other than $300-$400 total of the $8000 spend.
I think I'm going to get myself a Corsair 850W or Cooler Master 1000W as both their pricing are the same.
Now, I'm trying to decide on a mother board:
1) Asus MotherBoard - Rampage IV
2) ASUS P9X79 DELUXE
3) ASUS Sabertooth X79
Which board do you think is the nicest of the three?
All three boards are good. Whichever you choose, you will get the best motherboard. The best performance/price ratio is of course P9X79 PRO. P9X79 DELUXE cost more. The different between PRO & DELUXE are the latter have additional features such as wireless, two gigabit ethernet & Digital 16 + 4 Phase for CPU power (PRO have Digital 8 + 2 Phase), to name a few. Sabertooth offer balance of price & features. Between Sabertooth X79 & P9X79 DELUXE, I'd go with Sabertooth X79. Between P9X79 DELUXE & PRO, I'd get PRO. If you like wireless, go DELUXE then. The Rampage good for overclocking, have more features & pricey. Again, all these board are good performer. The only different between them are the features they offer.

Regarding the CM 690 II Advanced & H100 compatibility, you should be able to fit the radiator at the top. See here for more information.

My H100 running silently & does work great. However, there are many people got noisy H100 (grinding). So, instead of H100, I'd suggest XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 kit. The price should be around H100 price.

For PSU, any 80Plus rated PSU with 700W or more is recommended. 1000W is overkill IMHO but if you do plan to upgrade to 3-way or 4-way SLI in the future, then go for it. Corsair PSU usually build by reputable OEM. So, that's good.
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2 x Enzotech RMF-G14-90 90 degrees rotary EK-FC5870 Nickel + Acetal XSPC D5 Dual Bay Reservoir/Pump Combo XSPC EX240 2x120mm radiator 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Hardware Labs Black Ice GTS360 3x120mm radiator 5 x Corsair SP120 High Performance 2 x XSPC G1/4″ 10mm Male to Female Fitting (Chr... Koolance Fitting Coupling Adapter, Swiveling Ma... 
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Thanks guys for all your suggestions and help. I think I'm good to go now.
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2 x STATA Seagate 320 GB (16MB Buffer) Windows XP Professional 32 Bit SP2 Dell 22" Widescreen Logitech MX5000 Bluethooth 
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Originally Posted by coras View Post

Thanks guys for all your suggestions and help. I think I'm good to go now.
PS. You don't need a massive UPS, UPS is normally to save your work then shut off. I'm running a 600 watt machine, and I've done 5 mins at full load on a 400VA UPS. Mines around 230W.
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