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If they only sell without VAT included to international customers, maybe I'll buy from them.

Taxation without representation lol.
If you are visiting in the UK you pay VAT (value added tax), but there is a form you can file and they will reimburse the VAT to you. wink.gif
post #1312 of 2742
any updates?
post #1313 of 2742
I don't know if they are a reliable retailer or not but this (http://www.magefirm.com/yate-loon-d14bh-12-gp-14025-server-cooling-fan-pr-8082) site appears to have the 140mm pwm yates. they are however $20.00.
post #1314 of 2742
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I don't know if they are a reliable retailer or not but this (http://www.magefirm.com/yate-loon-d14bh-12-gp-14025-server-cooling-fan-pr-8082) site appears to have the 140mm pwm yates. they are however $20.00.

Yeah... for 20USD a fan there are far better options out there tongue.gif

Edit: Also in regards to the seller... Look at the comments for the fan. Lots and lots of copy paste comments with even the same spell errors. To me that looks like a scam on the comments at least tongue.gif
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...
Edit: Also in regards to the seller... Look at the comments for the fan. Lots and lots of copy paste comments with even the same spell errors. To me that looks like a scam on the comments at least tongue.gif

They didn't even try...

Why don't legitimate retail sellers import those things? Too cheap to make a profit?
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They didn't even try...

Why don't legitimate retail sellers import those things? Too cheap to make a profit?

Probably not a large enough market. What baffles me though is that I can't even find them on Aliexpress... I mean if they don't sell it in China then where exactly would you find them?

That said, it's not really like we need access to Yate Loon PWM fans. As long as there are good alternatives under 10$ it's all good (considering Yate Loon has always been rather mediocre on performance, but very good on performance to price), only problem is I have no clue which ones to recommend under 10$.
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AliExpress doesn't cover everything. The Yate Loons are all over the place on Taobao.com.

And they are not necessarily the price/performance king. Many industrial fans from Delta/AVC/SanAce etc. are found in the same price range. I'm sure there is some gold among those, but without reviewing each of them we simply don't know.
Edited by MrKoala - 11/5/15 at 12:42am
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Yates aren't mediocre imho. If I weren't building my system for show, I would gladly substitute Yates for the higher end fans that I am putting in my build and save some funds for something else.

They are louder than Vardars and GTs. But they perform at a comparable level in my experience. DazMode did a comparison with cheap fans (Gelids and rebranded Yates iirc) vs Vardars, GTs and Engineer Noctuas. The cheap fans were comparable in performance but they were definitely louder. wink.gif

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If by performance you mean airflow/pressure, the high speed Yate Loon models, which is often used with passive cooling systems, are way more powerful than typical enthusiast PC fans. The problem is how much performance we can have if we tune all of the them to the same noise level with either open (airflow) or heatsink/rad (pressure) mounting.

Performance/noise at the highest setting doesn't tell everything. We need curves with varying PWM duty cycle, but that's a lot more work.


Looking at the blades, my uneducated guess is the D14BH's will do well with case airflow, but are not among the most efficient heatsink/rad fans.
Edited by MrKoala - 11/5/15 at 1:00am
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^This. Really if performance is the only thing that matters then you might as well go for son 38mm all aluminum san ace fans. I know for a fact that they have both insane flow and pressure, but the noise is unbearable imo. When talking about regular fans it's far more bout the performance to noise ratio than anything else. Then there is the price as well but that's another matter. Not trying to say the Yates are bad, but there are fans far more suited for personal computers out there. I have no idea which ones would be good as budget fans though as the 140mm marks is less saturated than the 120mm market.
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