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post #1981 of 2778
Well you guys did it...

I ordered:
  • EK F4-120ER Vardar's
  • Phanteks PH-F120MP's
  • Noctua NF-F12 iPPC 2000 PWMs

And after some testing.... returned them all and got 5x GT's (1850rpm) - Black Edition PWM + black sleeving.

The EK were really nice (build wise) but made this strange/annoying metallic wining sound. The Phanteks were nice but it didn't seem like it moved too much air. Noctua's were just loud.

Oh well at least the exchange rate was in my favor thumb.gif
post #1982 of 2778
I'm in the market for 120 case & cpu cooler. whats offers the low noise with high performance?
post #1983 of 2778
It`s strange for so many years noone managed to make a fan to beat the gentle typhoons, what`s so hard about it ?
post #1984 of 2778
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Originally Posted by Damasterjj View Post

I'm in the market for 120 case & cpu cooler. whats offers the low noise with high performance?

Short answer: GTs.

Long answer: It's still GTs.

GTs offer the best performance at the lowest noise of any 120mm fan I've ever used. They are legend in rad and cooler use and yet make great quiet case fans too.

Select the PWM version for the cooler. Can use the 3pin or PWM version for the case. I like to use PWM fans all round, with a PWM splitter to keep the case fans in sync with the cooler demands. However, sometimes you need a reasonably constant case flow and the low speed GTs are a treat.

Like any fan, to minimize any vibration/resonance issues suggest soft mounting them using silicon gaskets and mounts.
post #1985 of 2778
Wich silicone gaskets and mounts would you reccomend ? I usually just add some rubber washers under the corners.
post #1986 of 2778
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Originally Posted by outofmyheadyo View Post

It`s strange for so many years noone managed to make a fan to beat the gentle typhoons, what`s so hard about it ?

My question is...what's so easy about it?

If it was easy, everyone would have a better version by now.

There's so many annoying little details involved in any optimized electro-mechanical device.

Optimizing air flow versus static pressure with the lowest possible noise and best longevity is usually a game of pick-any-two. Then there's bearing issues which have a huge bearing on the noise and lifetime of the fan. Motor design is a science and art in itself. Especially artifact-free PWM power delivery. The optimum hub to blade ratio? Blade design...more compromises than solutions. Nidec with the GTs created a very, very good set of compromises.

The EK Vardar series are the nearest 'tribute' - they are very close in performance. But, their QC processes are not up to speed - and they don't have near as smooth a noise profile as the GT, imo.
Edited by MicroCat - 6/28/16 at 2:46pm
post #1987 of 2778
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Originally Posted by outofmyheadyo View Post

Wich silicone gaskets and mounts would you reccomend ? I usually just add some rubber washers under the corners.

Those can work. It depends on the specific context. In some cases (killing myself here) the panel where the fan mounts acts like a resonator. Case in point (oh stop!), the HAF XB. To reduce resonant effects I had to use both silicon gaskets, silicon screws and some dynamat damping on the front panel.

For GTs that don't offer any frame decoupling I use either silicon gaskets like the Feser Xvibe or in some cases to practice safe low noise air flow, will use a full fan frame condom like Alphacool Susurro.

I like the Nexus silicon fan screws and Noctua ones. Have used both the Gelid and Antec ones - on a case by case basis. (one pun too far?)

Also experimented using Duxseal with decoupling shrouds.
post #1988 of 2778
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Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post

You are mistaken. The "black edition" fans come with black blades, not gray blades, from the factory; ModMyMods doesn't disassemble them and paint them like they do with the ones they sell with white blades. Also, if you would read the "fine print", you would realize that the white edition will never be in stock because ModMyMods doesn't disassemble and paint them until they have received enough preorders to allow them to do a large batch, which generally takes two to three weeks. Only the 2150rpm black addition fans, which are used to make the white fan conversion, are out of stock; the 1850 rpm version is still in stock. You really need to learn some patience and to pay attention to details.

Btw, the conversion process also includes sleeving the fan leads.


So i've heard. Never saw black ones years ago before they were originally discontinued. Honest mistake, they were labeled as custom "black editions" no different from the "white edition" ones, which leads one to believe they were altered. Perhaps the custom status is due to the custom sleeving (that is still offered in the $19.99 price. I've seen the black ones sleeved at 2-3 other places for the same price, so that has nothing to do with the higher $27 price on the whites)

I did read the fine print, and I never said the 2150rpm black ones were out of stock, i Clearly said i wanted the low rpm (550-1850) white versions specifically, and those were listed as out of stock as well....And there's no button to pre-order them anywhere that i can find, nor any instructions on how to pre-order at all..... Sounds like YOU need to learn patience to pay attention, especially to the comments you reply to...
Edited by DarkIdeals - 6/28/16 at 5:36pm
 
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post #1989 of 2778
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I never said the 2150rpm black ones were out of stock, i clearly said i wanted the low rpm white versions specifically, and those were listed as out of stock....And there's no button to pre-order them..... And i've seen the black and grey ones sold sleeved for $19.99 so that doesn't really make sense. Sounds like YOU need to learn patience and to pay attention...

Hey...don't be giving the Lady any stick. She's got a beak you don't want in your face. biggrin.gif

Speaking of beautiful beaks, the beauty of the PWM 1850rpm / 2150rpm models is that they can spin down to near silent. The 1850 PWM range goes down to 550rpm. So you get the benefit of silence at system idle and can spool up to great, smooth cooling as required. 2150rpm goes down to 900rpm, so not as quiet on the low end.

Do you have link for the $19.99 sleeved editions? PerformancePCs/Dazmode/ModMyMod all charge extra for sleeving.
post #1990 of 2778
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I'm laughing here sitting at my throne, because you are all wrong.

Clearly the NF-P12 is the best fan ever made.
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
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Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Seagate Barracuda 8TB I will end you Dazmode Darkside Maple Leaf Special Edition 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
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