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Bitfenix Spectre Pro = thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

LOL! At least it has the word 'Pro' in it. Bitfennie's stock un-pro case fans are who-let-rip-smiley.pngaxesmiley.pngsniper.gif
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LOL! At least it has the word 'Pro' in it. Bitfennie's stock un-pro case fans are who-let-rip-smiley.pngaxesmiley.pngsniper.gif


Note that these fans are already 3-4 years old, I bought them because I wanted led fans and these were only led fans with decent reviews at the time.

This is the fan I am using as only exhaust atm.

@Melcar
Edit: Those bitfenix pro non led might not be the same afterall mine do max 1200 RPM at 12V on his spec sheet he does 1700 RPM at 12V. Must be some other version as mine are not pwm but 3 pin fans.

This is the right model

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/bitfenix_spectre_pro_range_review/6
Edited by Snorlord - 9/22/17 at 4:05pm
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LOL! At least it has the word 'Pro' in it. Bitfennie's stock un-pro case fans are who-let-rip-smiley.pngaxesmiley.pngsniper.gif

Man, if I could only find the message they sent me after I asked for a review sample back in 2011 or whenever it was. They were claiming that unless it's under laboratory conditions, my tests are null and void, and therefore pointless to send samples in for testing, because as we all know, everybody run their PCs in laboratory conditions. Regardless, I thought at the time, alright well crap, maybe they are right and my tests aren't really accurate, except that they are highly repeatable with consistent results despite variable ambient conditions. Turns out they only needed a shill like Linus to put in a good word for them to sell like hotcakes.
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Note that these fans are already 3-4 years old, I bought them because I wanted led fans and these were only led fans with decent reviews at the time.

This is the fan I am using as only exhaust atm.

@Melcar
Edit: Those bitfenix pro non led might not be the same afterall mine do max 1200 RPM at 12V on his spec sheet he does 1700 RPM at 12V. Must be some other version as mine are not pwm but 3 pin fans.

This is the right model

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/bitfenix_spectre_pro_range_review/6

Then they are likely to be too weak to provide adequate airflow. The exhaust is also too weak to keep up with the Scythe fan.
If you are getting new fans may as well get some good ones.
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LOL! At least it has the word 'Pro' in it. Bitfennie's stock un-pro case fans are who-let-rip-smiley.pngaxesmiley.pngsniper.gif

Found it!

"Hi C,

We will not be sending samples to any comparison reviews as temperatures, noise levels and air pressure is all dependent on the equipment used, heat sink used, and whether or not they are professional grade equipment being used to determine actual fan and air movement.

Noise levels will result and vary from person to person as sound frequency can differ from one ear to another.
Sound levels can differ from one radiator to another, which brings me to the temperatures as every heatsink will produce a different noise level as air travels through the fins within a certain amount of space.
Finally, noise level will require Anechoic chamber's and professional equipment.

Fans work differently in every case as the end-user's needs and parts used are different.

I hope you understand our perspective regarding fan comparisons.

I will say, however, your thread deserves a well round of applause from both the community and other vendors for the tedious work on the set up."
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Found it!

"Hi C,

We will not be sending samples to any comparison reviews as temperatures, noise levels and air pressure is all dependent on the equipment used, heat sink used, and whether or not they are professional grade equipment being used to determine actual fan and air movement.

Noise levels will result and vary from person to person as sound frequency can differ from one ear to another.
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Finally, noise level will require Anechoic chamber's and professional equipment.

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I hope you understand our perspective regarding fan comparisons.

I will say, however, your thread deserves a well round of applause from both the community and other vendors for the tedious work on the set up."

Wow! That is just so snobbishly sweet! And so incredibly misguided.

And yet they're so right - because we can only hear fan noise in an anechoic chamber. Such a relief. The fan noise I hear on occasion must be from the snoring of cats.

Also, it seems that their fans are beyond compare - you're not allowed to compare them to other fans because you use a computer with a heatsink. How dare you! It's not fair! tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

Maybe send them a new slogan:

Bitfenix - The Cooling Fan Choice of Cowards in Audio Test Labs Everywhere thumbsupsmiley.png
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@Melcar

Hmm but the Xigmatek does 71CFM at 1200rpm http://www.legitreviews.com/xigmatek-xaf-series-140mm-fan-round-up_1819/7

Well was going to buy these nzxt 140mm v2 radiator fans anyway. Going to replace these bitfenix with these. I am gonna keep the Xigmatek though as it's not a bad fan.
Edited by Snorlord - 9/22/17 at 4:41pm
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Wow! That is just so snobbishly sweet! And so incredibly misguided.

And yet they're so right - because we can only hear fan noise in an anechoic chamber. Such a relief. The fan noise I hear on occasion must be from the snoring of cats.

Also, it seems that their fans are beyond compare - you're not allowed to compare them to other fans because you use a computer with a heatsink. How dare you! It's not fair! tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

Maybe send them a new slogan:

Bitfenix - The Cooling Fan Choice of Cowards in Audio Test Labs Everywhere thumbsupsmiley.png

tongue.gif
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@Melcar

Hmm but the Xigmatek does 71CFM at 1200rpm http://www.legitreviews.com/xigmatek-xaf-series-140mm-fan-round-up_1819/7

Well was going to buy these nzxt 140mm v2 radiator fans anyway. Going to replace these bitfenix with these. I am gonna keep the Xigmatek though as it's not a bad fan.

I did not see static pressure measurements there, it seems it's just a free air test. I doubt the fan will really push 71cfm when inside a case.
What you can do is set those two Bitfenix fans as exhaust, the Xigmatek as a bottom intake, and buy two better fans for your front intakes. I'm partial to the Phanteks SP fans, they should do well even with a filter. I think something like that would provide good airflow inside the case without spending too much on new fans.
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well i have xigmatek's XOF 120mm fans and they're pretty decent.

i don't have any measuring tools but from what i can compare it with its about as good as NF-S12A.
decent airflow against grills, low noise, the only concern would be lifespan since its using sleeve bearings.
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