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If he will run them at that speed (1500rpm or so), those Noctuas are a waste. Thermalright fans perform similar if not the same. The PH-F140MP has more sp and slightly lower airflow than Noctua fans at similar speeds. Both are considerably cheaper. If he wants the option to be able to crank up the fans +2000rpm when needed then fine, but fans like Vardars perform better (maybe a bit noisier and with a more "rough" sound) and are for the most part also cheaper.
I would only invest in such fans if I had the need to run them faster that 2K rpm most of the time. Say a highly overclocked system that almost never goes to idle and 2*C is the difference between a stable system and an unstable one. Don't get me wrong, I like fast fans, but I have learned over the years that slower fans can do as good as a job as long as you have good airflow and ambient temps.
Edited by Melcar - 10/18/17 at 10:06am
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well after looking at the controlers listed, they are just going to fan headers on the mobo.
no way i'm dumping over $100 to have convenience of a fan controller.
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As someone who desperately tried to avoid Noctua's awful color scheme, I used the following (I don't remember the exact specs but still):
- Arctic Colling el cheapo 1500 RPM fans: poor performance.
- Cooler Master MasterFan AP @2650 RPM: horrible rattling at almost all speeds.
- Vardars @1850 RPM, 2200 RPM: humming at low speeds.
- Phanteks 120mm (don't remember the exact name but they were AP fans): rattling at 1000-1200 RPM, humming below that.

...so I ended up with Noctua NF-F12 after all. Note I am not a fan, nor a shill, they were just last resort for me and they just work. The color scheme still sucks but oh well.
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well after looking at the controlers listed, they are just going to fan headers on the mobo.
no way i'm dumping over $100 to have convenience of a fan controller.

If you think of the Aquaero 6 as a "fan controller", think again.
It's like saying "I'm not going to dump 200K on a Lamborghini just to have convenience of a car".
The Aquaero 6 is a life-changer.
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well after looking at the controlers listed, they are just going to fan headers on the mobo.
no way i'm dumping over $100 to have convenience of a fan controller.

Out of curiosity, what on earth controllers where you looking at that cost over $100? There are plenty of good options for significantly less that $100. Most fans take 4-5 watts at full speed, and the average controller is capable of handling at least 2-3 fans per channel... many are capable of running 4-6 fans per channel.
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The context of usage is why I recommended the Noctua. He said they'd be operated on a controller, and as such they can be limited to no more than 1500 RPM, where they'll run less than 30db, even on a radiator, and at that speed still push excellent airflow and generate more pressure than 99% of fans on the market can do at max speed.

Why would you buy the Industrial version if you only plan to run them at 1500rpm? Just get the regular version which tops out at 1500 if that is the goal. There are also a surprising amount of other good 14cm fans available at the moment.
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well after looking at the controlers listed, they are just going to fan headers on the mobo.
no way i'm dumping over $100 to have convenience of a fan controller.

You should probably be fine just running them through a splitter and on to your board, if not then something like the Swiftech PWM hub (there are other alternatives as well, but this is what first came to mind) should work fine if you are concerned about the board not giving enough power.
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If you think of the Aquaero 6 as a "fan controller", think again.
It's like saying "I'm not going to dump 200K on a Lamborghini just to have convenience of a car".
The Aquaero 6 is a life-changer.

Yeah,but you wouldn't buy a lambo to go grocery shopping either. So there isn't a point in recommending something if something a tenth of the price will do just fine for that specific task.
Edited by Rainmaker91 - 10/18/17 at 12:17pm
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Yeah,but you wouldn't buy a lambo to go grocery shopping either. So there isn't a point in recommending something if something a tenth of the price will do just fine for that specific task.

We're talking about watercooling here. That type of watercooling where an Aquaero 6 LT costs at most 20% of the watercooling parts anyway, not to mention the rest of the system. We're talking about Threadripper 1950X, X399 board, etc. Would you really cheap out after all that spending? Point is, he already got the Lambo, or so he says. And for that specific task, I don't see a regular fan controller being able to deal with all the required functionality, but then again, maybe some people are into manually tuning their fan speeds very often using knobs smile.gif
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well after looking at the controlers listed, they are just going to fan headers on the mobo.
no way i'm dumping over $100 to have convenience of a fan controller.

use a pwm splitter that also has the power connector to plug all the fans into it so they work at the same speed (you only get the speed reported for the first fan, but all of them should be running at the same speed as there all getting the same pulse signal) this helps to cut down on acoustics as well especially in push pull configurations on a radiator (but its best to put the fans in pairs (like outputs 1+3 and 2+4 on the splitters I've looked at)

a good pwm controller is an expensive beast and like many things you get what you pay for, of course you can get a decent 3pin fan controller for under $30, and the fans are cheaper two although they don't often have the same low speed characteristics common with pwm fans

if your radiator is mounted horizontally then ml pro fans are a good option in terms of low noise at low speed operations (I have 4 of them in push pull on my h115i and they make less noise than the psu fan does until they go above 55% (which is about 1100rpm) and run as low as 400 rpm......
although most of the time I have them sitting around 850>900 keeping my cpu below 45 degrees (fx8350 @4.6Ghz) so my use will be different to yours and your experience might be different, low speed low noise fans is always use and individual subjective in terms of "good enough" or "hurricane in my ears"

of course a half decent mic with noise cancelling shouldn't hear the fans regardless of how loud they are during a stream so there shouldn't really be any problem with any fan other than if you can hear it over the headphones....
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We're talking about watercooling here. That type of watercooling where an Aquaero 6 LT costs at most 20% of the watercooling parts anyway, not to mention the rest of the system. We're talking about Threadripper 1950X, X399 board, etc. Would you really cheap out after all that spending? Point is, he already got the Lambo, or so he says. And for that specific task, I don't see a regular fan controller being able to deal with all the required functionality, but then again, maybe some people are into manually tuning their fan speeds very often using knobs smile.gif

I get your point, but there really isn't a need to get more than what is needed for a specific task. I'm not talkiing about cheaping out on the price here, but rather jsut getting the thing that you specifically need. The reason I'm not gettign an Aquaero (though with the amount of fans I have I damned near bought one on impulse) is simply that I don't need any added functionality than just setting my fan at a specific speed. So for a long time I have used just simple (but strong) voltage regulated fan controllers for my voltage fans since I simply don't need more functionality than that. I'm currently in the process of changing to PWM fans and am looking at a PWM fan hub as I simply don't need more than that (though with 16 radiator fans and another 3 case fans I need powerful circuitry on the hub).

So while Aquaero is a really good device, not everybody needs the added functionality and it's a waste to buy stuff that you don't really need/use in my mind.
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Depending on needs aquaeroo 5 LT might fit your needs. Also, LT model is same as others, just not 5.25" panel to fit in front of case. I have aquaero 5 LT and XT. I never use front controls. I find it much easier to use mouse and monitor.
Edited by doyll - 10/18/17 at 1:55pm
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