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ill be having a 8gb of ram, and im having a bad hdd,

when i put textures on (gta4) it stops for a bit, like a lag but not lagging in fps.... or let's call it stuttering..

even if u have the worst HDD on planet, will the RAM do the work for u and remove stutters?? and also loading times?

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I know what you're talking about. It's like the game pauses for just a moment and then resumes, almost as if it has to stop for a moment just to load some more textures.

I think it could be one of two things:

  • The CPU. GTA4 runs much better with true quad core CPUs, and as you know the i3-2100 is a dual core with HyperThreading (not as good as a true quad).
  • The video card's memory capacity. It may not be enough in order to keep the performance smooth for this particular technical element.


That's all I can think of. redface.gif
    
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Well if your harddrive is really that bad, you should probably replace it with a better harddrive or SSD.

More ram will help but doubtful it will fix it. Another option which might help would be SSD caching via one of those 3rd party kits- like

Corsair Accelerator
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2239755&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=VRqCjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE

Crucial Adrenaline
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Adrenaline-Solution-2-5-Inch-CT050M4SSC2BDA/dp/B007C1EH3G

OCZ Synapse
http://www.amazon.com/Synapse-SYN-25SAT3-64G-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B005PHHO66

but with all those options, you aren't in control of what get's cached (either in ram or ssd caching). Which brings me back to:

Well if your harddrive is really that bad, you should probably replace it with a better harddrive or SSD.

Maybe you should run some Harddrive diagnostics like HDTune or CrystalMark and make sure that's really the problem.
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Lack of RAM is usually what causes such stutters. How much RAM do you have right now?

Could you run an HDTune benchmark and post the graph so that we can see how old/slow your drive is?
     
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With gta 4, it could be a lot of things, memory, HD textures ( if you're using mods), or lack of vram.
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As long as you are doing something predictable having pile of RAM in windows 7 works kinda okish at smoothing out the lagginess of HDD as superfetch in there is actually pretty decent already. The second thing you can do is to throw a USB stick into some unused USB slot and dedicate it to readyboost. It's also useful for masking the latency of HDD although will not help you at boot times.
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post #7 of 24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

I know what you're talking about. It's like the game pauses for just a moment and then resumes, almost as if it has to stop for a moment just to load some more textures.
I think it could be one of two things:
  • The CPU. GTA4 runs much better with true quad core CPUs, and as you know the i3-2100 is a dual core with HyperThreading (not as good as a true quad).
  • The video card's memory capacity. It may not be enough in order to keep the performance smooth for this particular technical element.
That's all I can think of. redface.gif

yeah exactly that's what im talking about. thumb.gif,
oh i see, thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kramy View Post

Lack of RAM is usually what causes such stutters. How much RAM do you have right now?
Could you run an HDTune benchmark and post the graph so that we can see how old/slow your drive is?
ill soon have a 8gb of ram, coz ill build my pc tomorrow...
... sure ill benchmark it after i bought my new hdd... anyways my hdd is a 250GB hitachi or maybe a seagate..

thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BinaryDemon View Post

Well if your harddrive is really that bad, you should probably replace it with a better harddrive or SSD.
More ram will help but doubtful it will fix it. Another option which might help would be SSD caching via one of those 3rd party kits- like
Corsair Accelerator
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2239755&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=VRqCjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE
Crucial Adrenaline
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Adrenaline-Solution-2-5-Inch-CT050M4SSC2BDA/dp/B007C1EH3G
OCZ Synapse
http://www.amazon.com/Synapse-SYN-25SAT3-64G-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B005PHHO66
but with all those options, you aren't in control of what get's cached (either in ram or ssd caching). Which brings me back to:
Well if your harddrive is really that bad, you should probably replace it with a better harddrive or SSD.
Maybe you should run some Harddrive diagnostics like HDTune or CrystalMark and make sure that's really the problem.
yeah that would be the excellent solution but in my case, im on a tight budget.. i might be able to replace it soon but not for now...
i can only focus on the RAM matter.... what do u think of a 8GB ram?

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Quote:
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yeah that would be the excellent solution but in my case, im on a tight budget.. i might be able to replace it soon but not for now...
i can only focus on the RAM matter.... what do u think of a 8GB ram?

thanks.
You generally want enough RAM for the game, plus at least 1.5-2GB for other background software and to act as a buffer.

If the game is using 3.5GB in the task manager, then you need at least 5-6 GB for optimal performance. (few to no stutters, etc.)

If you go beyond that, Windows 7 will actually begin caching reads. With enough RAM, smaller games end up loaded completely into memory, giving speeds on par with RAMdisks - but you do have to let the game come across textures/models/etc and load them the first time, so it might stutter a little as it first encounters them - especially on an old and slow drive.

8GB of RAM is enough for most new games. 16GB would be ideal, but in your case you're better off spending that money on a new HDD or SSD.
     
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You generally want enough RAM for the game, plus at least 1.5-2GB for other background software and to act as a buffer.
If the game is using 3.5GB in the task manager, then you need at least 5-6 GB for optimal performance. (few to no stutters, etc.)
If you go beyond that, Windows 7 will actually begin caching reads. With enough RAM, smaller games end up loaded completely into memory, giving speeds on par with RAMdisks - but you do have to let the game come across textures/models/etc and load them the first time, so it might stutter a little as it first encounters them - especially on an old and slow drive.
8GB of RAM is enough for most new games. 16GB would be ideal, but in your case you're better off spending that money on a new HDD or SSD.

sigh.. okay u got me, i was very convinced and decided for a sata 2 500gb hitachi 7200rpm hdd ... plus 8GB of ram... = flawless load? no stutter?

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I have encountered this same issue in games (Not GTA4 thou as I don't have that). I'm have 12GB of ram and my main HDD is a Seagate spinpoint F1 which is a relatively modern and fast drive. I have being trying to figure out what might be the reason for this phenomenon for years but have never been able to pinpoint the exact cause as everything seams to checkout. Plenty of free ram (6GB free while the game is running), plenty of CPU power, only 500-700MB of vram reserved (of the 1GB that's available).

It just seams that some game engines are more prone to it then others. Perhaps some engines just cant use large amounts of ram and instead keep loading stuff from the HDD and not loading it up to the ram. As a result even the pretty fast F1 can't always keep up causing a "hiccup ".
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