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6/26/12 at 5:35pm
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ok well all my specs should be in my siggy. was amd based. but im going to use a gtx 580, i havent installed it because i belive my current system is not worthy. im going intel, so i wanna get a intel 2500k or 3570k(planning on 4.0 ghz OC), i want a motherboard under $130, not going to buy anything from microcenter. please tell me what are some important things i should know about the motherboard please <3... also wat is the best kind of ram that it can handle. thx
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6/26/12 at 6:14pm
First of all. the question you ask is impossible. There will always be a bottleneck...there will always being something holding you back.

Ram: You have two big decisions: 8Gb or 16Gb. People on OCN argue both ways. Going with the fastest possible RAM is a waste of money, find something middle of the road speeds (1600 MHz - 1866 MHz) with low latency (like CAS 9-10). I would recommend Mushkin’s Redline, Corsair’s Dominator GT, or G.Skill’s Ripjaws.

I would look at something like this --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231489

Motherboards: Every person on OCN is going to tell you something different. For a Intel chipset, the market is flooded with 1,000 good choices. Look for the peripherals that you want. Do you want lots of USB ports? Do you want lots of PCI-E slots? Do you want fancy onboard sound? Are you looking for certain colors?

Personally, I've been REALLY blown away by the quality of the nicer ASRock motherboards. Don't be afraid to look at the "older" P67 / Z68 chipsets, if your on a budget they are just as good as the Z77's for 99% of everything.

I would look at something like this (ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 $119) --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

or this ( ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $134) --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265
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6/26/12 at 6:53pm
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oh and most importantly , will it fit in this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094
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6/26/12 at 8:00pm
Do you have a plan for cooling the processor, or do you want recommendations in that area?

Also, both those motherboard will fit. Your CPU cooler selection might also change which RAM i recommend....since clearance can become a problem on big air coolers.

Weather you go with the 2500K or the 3570, they are both excellent choices.
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There will always be a bottleneck, you can't get rid of it entirely, because as you upgrade your weakest component, a new weakest one will arise.
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I would say, for general computer use (ie web browsing etc, not gaming), your biggest bottleneck is the HDD. You will notice a massive performance increase if you upgrade to an SSD (such as a Crucial M4). For gaming this probably wont have too much of an impact, but i can say from experience they are well worth the upgrade.
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6/26/12 at 8:34pm
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i want to get a hyper 212 cooler. i cant decide the Mb please help me decide >;d. plawkz! I want to know temps of 3570k at 4 ghz and 2500k at 4 ghz
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6/26/12 at 8:39pm
•2500k ~ $100-$150 used
•any cheap z board like asrock ~$50-$100 new or used
•8gb 2133 cl9 (like the g.skill snipers) ~50-~60 new
•h100 from newegg its like $95 new

with the h100 you can get around 4.6-5ghz on 2500 since there is no hyperthreading which raises the temps and requires a custom water loop to achieve something closer to the 5ghz range unless you get lucky and get a good overclocker.
~$300-$400
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6/26/12 at 11:11pm
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Dude I'm a newb. Water cooling sounds very complex. I barely want to Oc to 4 ghz and that seems like a lot.
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6/26/12 at 11:15pm
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Dude I'm a newb. Water cooling sounds very complex. I barely want to Oc to 4 ghz and that seems like a lot.

H100 is easier to install than most high end air coolers, since its you dont have to nothing but add water the first time and that is it.
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