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Perhaps I'm wrong, but I feel that patents are simply too broad. I really can't see much use for them other than milking innovations, which is fine in a sense. If somebody invented a way to wirelessly transmit electricity or something, I'd want them to get some reward for it. However, I don't think they should be able to ruin somebody else's business because they are one branch on a tree.

Patent lawyers get paid to take your idea and word it in the most general and vague terms that they can get away with. "We propose a device that is either handheld, mounted in a case, floating in mid air, underwater such that it could be used by a human, alien, dog, cat, fish, cheetah...."
post #12 of 34
Oh I await the day the less knowledgeable part of OCN learns the way of how businesses work.

@Minnetonka16 Do you know how old that phone is and you call a basic phone having the ability to view documents, scale, and rotate them? You sir have no idea what a basic phone is.


OT: Good for Apple. They patented another thing that any other company has yet to do. You can't blame a company for wanting the most market share and trying to make big bucks.
     
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So before everyone gets fired up over this, applying for and receiving a patent takes awhile [poses the question of how long was this in queue]. Also, was Apple the first to utilize the technology? Were they the first/only ones to apply for the patent? Is their method different than another companies?

These patents were files from 2008 onwards. The resizing one was filed nearly a decade after Microsoft started working on the technology. Remember Minority Report? That was all inspired by Microsoft's tech.
    
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So before everyone gets fired up over this, applying for and receiving a patent takes awhile [poses the question of how long was this in queue]. Also, was Apple the first to utilize the technology? Were they the first/only ones to apply for the patent? Is their method different than another companies?

These patents were files from 2008 onwards. The resizing one was filed nearly a decade after Microsoft started working on the technology. Remember Minority Report? That was all inspired by Microsoft's tech.

No offense, but using Minority Report in this argument (and the previous argument by another) is ridiculous.

I better not patent my 'dream' machine, because it's now commonplace ever since Total Recall.
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Cleaned, stay on topic. Do not drift off to arguments or irrelevant troublesome discussions or I will close this.
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I bet Apple pays quite a few people at the patent office.
What a joke. This craps been used for years.
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Who's to say the patent wasn't filed for at the launch of the original iPhone?

Patenting screen rotation is pretty ridiculous IMO, but, if I were a business and were the first to popularize features that are now commonplace, I'd like a bit of financial compensation by those that have adopted a feature I made commonplace.

EDIT: It seems that the patent was applied for in 2008, that sounds like a reasonable patent IMO.
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Many patents are taking out defensively to prevent future tortious litigation. Some companies readily share their patents with other responsible companies in good faith so let's give Apple some room to prove they are using this patent in the right way.

But yes, our patent system is messed up and reforming the system to reflect the spirit of the law and promote innovation is in everyone's best interest (except scumbag trial lawyers who produce nothing and leech off others). We need a separate patent court system stocked with true experts to distinguish between reasonable patents that exceed a standardized measure of simple common sense.

Given how moribund the economy is, innovation will be a key factor in us gettnig out of this long recession. However, there are powerful forces arrayed against reform (trial lawyers) and they fund 1/3 the democratic party which is dominant in tech-producing states like California so don't expect significant reform anytime soon.
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No offense, but using Minority Report in this argument (and the previous argument by another) is ridiculous.
I better not patent my 'dream' machine, because it's now commonplace ever since Total Recall.

Minority Report was based on real technology that Microsoft has been working on since 2001 though.
    
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Patents are silly these days
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Minority Report was based on real technology that Microsoft has been working on since 2001 though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Minority_Report it was written in 1956!!!
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