thanx for posting this it looks like a good roundup, time to sit back and have a lonng read through! 
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6/28/12 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by Shiveron 
Err... I have OCZ drives in 4 (1 v2, 2 a3, 1 v3) computers right now and not one has ever given me any trouble. I know several others still using their OCZ drives as well.
The 1 crucial drive I'ved used (a 300), died after 2 months.
Let people read reviews and decide for themselves. Don't sneak your bias in just because you own one companies product and have heard a bad thing about another company. That's seriously the biggest problem with these types of forums and it helps noone.
Err... I have OCZ drives in 4 (1 v2, 2 a3, 1 v3) computers right now and not one has ever given me any trouble. I know several others still using their OCZ drives as well.
The 1 crucial drive I'ved used (a 300), died after 2 months.
Let people read reviews and decide for themselves. Don't sneak your bias in just because you own one companies product and have heard a bad thing about another company. That's seriously the biggest problem with these types of forums and it helps noone.
I currently work for a computer reseller and we recently had an email go out to the whole company to inform customers that they need to update the firmware on the SSD's to the latest. This was a result of the high rate of returns of OCZ SSD's. Ive seen more come back than any other SSD make and i wouldnt touch any OCZ RAM or SSD products.
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6/28/12 at 4:38pm
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I currently work for a computer reseller and we recently had an email go out to the whole company to inform customers that they need to update the firmware on the SSD's to the latest. This was a result of the high rate of returns of OCZ SSD's. Ive seen more come back than any other SSD make and i wouldnt touch any OCZ RAM or SSD products.
I currently work for a computer reseller and we recently had an email go out to the whole company to inform customers that they need to update the firmware on the SSD's to the latest. This was a result of the high rate of returns of OCZ SSD's. Ive seen more come back than any other SSD make and i wouldnt touch any OCZ RAM or SSD products.
The only published data on SSD put OCZ at the highest for return rates.
To be fair, the 3.5% for OCZ is certainly better than any HDD out there. But there is no doubt OCZ reliability falls short of SSD brands such as Intel and Crucial.
With the Vertex 4 using a Marvell controller and higher quality nand, it really should be far and away OCZ's most reliable drive to date.
After having been through the entire bsod fiasco with OCZ from start to finish, it's safe to say that I will never buy another drive from them based on customer service alone. To continuously say the bsod epidemic effected less than 1% of users while forums all over the web were filling up with complaints was pretty shoddy imo. All they needed to say was yes there is a problem and we're working on a fix asap. Instead, we got the run from OCZ tech support saying our cables were bad, our overclock is not stable, we installed windows the wrong way and more.
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6/28/12 at 5:12pm
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very happy to hear that my M3 is as good as advertised. The best pretty much for the money and great performance.
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6/28/12 at 5:15pm
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6/28/12 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by L D4WG
Ive only ever used OCZ drives
Vertex II
Vertex III Max IOPS
And never had a problem. I also have two friends who have the Vertex IV and they are fine.
I have heard a lot about OCZ being unreliable but in my experience they are fine... And assuming you take your own advise and dont buy OCZ you are hardly one to say dont buy OCZ...
Ive only ever used OCZ drives
Vertex II
Vertex III Max IOPS
And never had a problem. I also have two friends who have the Vertex IV and they are fine.
I have heard a lot about OCZ being unreliable but in my experience they are fine... And assuming you take your own advise and dont buy OCZ you are hardly one to say dont buy OCZ...
Read the rest of the topic, please; I've addressed this twice.
OCZ drives are fine, although I'm willing to bet that the Vertex 4 will show some random major firmware fixable issue sooner or later like any new SSD will; it's OCZ's support that's the problem.
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Originally Posted by kikkO
Vertex 4
/thread
Vertex 4
/thread
Why? OCZ support was shoddy for the Vertex 3 fiasco and it's still an unproven platform due to the custom firmware, I'd go for an M4, Intel, Plextor or Samsung drive over the Vertex 4 for now, you can get good deals on all of the drives and there's no real life performance difference. In ~6 months time or so, I'll be happy to recommend the Vertex 4 assuming there's no signs of a major bug or if there is, it's well on the way to being fixed.
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Originally Posted by nubbinator
I'd till take the Plextor M3 Pro or Samsung 830 over it based on Storage Review's real world tests and the Intel 520 based on synthetics. I also have a lot more faith in Samsung, Plextor, and Intel than OCZ. Hopefully the Vertex 4 finally proves OCZ can make a good, reliable SSD, but I'm not holding my breath.
I'd till take the Plextor M3 Pro or Samsung 830 over it based on Storage Review's real world tests and the Intel 520 based on synthetics. I also have a lot more faith in Samsung, Plextor, and Intel than OCZ. Hopefully the Vertex 4 finally proves OCZ can make a good, reliable SSD, but I'm not holding my breath.
Those benchmarks mean nothing, you won't see a difference between any drive there in the actual real world.
For anecdotal evidence, my M4 should be leagues faster than my Force 3 according to that; yet I can't tell the difference in the real world.
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Originally Posted by MerkageTurk
Crucial M4
Samsung 830
Performance Series™ Pro 128GB SSD
Which One??
Crucial M4
Samsung 830
Performance Series™ Pro 128GB SSD
Which One??
Which is the cheapest for you? That's your answer; all very reliable and from good companies.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcg75
The only published data on SSD put OCZ at the highest for return rates.
To be fair, the 3.5% for OCZ is certainly better than any HDD out there. But there is no doubt OCZ reliability falls short of SSD brands such as Intel and Crucial.
With the Vertex 4 using a Marvell controller and higher quality nand, it really should be far and away OCZ's most reliable drive to date.
After having been through the entire bsod fiasco with OCZ from start to finish, it's safe to say that I will never buy another drive from them based on customer service alone. To continuously say the bsod epidemic effected less than 1% of users while forums all over the web were filling up with complaints was pretty shoddy imo. All they needed to say was yes there is a problem and we're working on a fix asap. Instead, we got the run from OCZ tech support saying our cables were bad, our overclock is not stable, we installed windows the wrong way and more.
The only published data on SSD put OCZ at the highest for return rates.
To be fair, the 3.5% for OCZ is certainly better than any HDD out there. But there is no doubt OCZ reliability falls short of SSD brands such as Intel and Crucial.
With the Vertex 4 using a Marvell controller and higher quality nand, it really should be far and away OCZ's most reliable drive to date.
After having been through the entire bsod fiasco with OCZ from start to finish, it's safe to say that I will never buy another drive from them based on customer service alone. To continuously say the bsod epidemic effected less than 1% of users while forums all over the web were filling up with complaints was pretty shoddy imo. All they needed to say was yes there is a problem and we're working on a fix asap. Instead, we got the run from OCZ tech support saying our cables were bad, our overclock is not stable, we installed windows the wrong way and more.
It's not even the reliability that's a problem, 3.5% is great overall; it's their support, remember the Vertex 3? Remember how the Sandforce Gen2 controller had issues to begin with? Remember how OCZ was practically the only company to deny them and blame everything else possible, even the SATA cables? Yeah.
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6/28/12 at 7:36pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Asce
I currently work for a computer reseller and we recently had an email go out to the whole company to inform customers that they need to update the firmware on the SSD's to the latest. This was a result of the high rate of returns of OCZ SSD's. Ive seen more come back than any other SSD make and i wouldnt touch any OCZ RAM or SSD products.
I currently work for a computer reseller and we recently had an email go out to the whole company to inform customers that they need to update the firmware on the SSD's to the latest. This was a result of the high rate of returns of OCZ SSD's. Ive seen more come back than any other SSD make and i wouldnt touch any OCZ RAM or SSD products.
There's your problem. You're not supposed to update firmware if the drive is working.
Golden rule in computing, if it's working don't mess with it.
My Vertex 3 has new firmware out, but I'm still using 2.15, why? Because IT WORKS!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutuz
Read the rest of the topic, please; I've addressed this twice.
OCZ drives are fine, although I'm willing to bet that the Vertex 4 will show some random major firmware fixable issue sooner or later like any new SSD will; it's OCZ's support that's the problem.
Why? OCZ support was shoddy for the Vertex 3 fiasco and it's still an unproven platform due to the custom firmware, I'd go for an M4, Intel, Plextor or Samsung drive over the Vertex 4 for now, you can get good deals on all of the drives and there's no real life performance difference. In ~6 months time or so, I'll be happy to recommend the Vertex 4 assuming there's no signs of a major bug or if there is, it's well on the way to being fixed.
Those benchmarks mean nothing, you won't see a difference between any drive there in the actual real world.
For anecdotal evidence, my M4 should be leagues faster than my Force 3 according to that; yet I can't tell the difference in the real world.
Which is the cheapest for you? That's your answer; all very reliable and from good companies.
It's not even the reliability that's a problem, 3.5% is great overall; it's their support, remember the Vertex 3? Remember how the Sandforce Gen2 controller had issues to begin with? Remember how OCZ was practically the only company to deny them and blame everything else possible, even the SATA cables? Yeah.
Read the rest of the topic, please; I've addressed this twice.
OCZ drives are fine, although I'm willing to bet that the Vertex 4 will show some random major firmware fixable issue sooner or later like any new SSD will; it's OCZ's support that's the problem.
Why? OCZ support was shoddy for the Vertex 3 fiasco and it's still an unproven platform due to the custom firmware, I'd go for an M4, Intel, Plextor or Samsung drive over the Vertex 4 for now, you can get good deals on all of the drives and there's no real life performance difference. In ~6 months time or so, I'll be happy to recommend the Vertex 4 assuming there's no signs of a major bug or if there is, it's well on the way to being fixed.
Those benchmarks mean nothing, you won't see a difference between any drive there in the actual real world.
For anecdotal evidence, my M4 should be leagues faster than my Force 3 according to that; yet I can't tell the difference in the real world.
Which is the cheapest for you? That's your answer; all very reliable and from good companies.
It's not even the reliability that's a problem, 3.5% is great overall; it's their support, remember the Vertex 3? Remember how the Sandforce Gen2 controller had issues to begin with? Remember how OCZ was practically the only company to deny them and blame everything else possible, even the SATA cables? Yeah.
Have you owned and used OCZ SSDs? Or do you read and focus on one company's failures on a isolated issue and generalize a company as bad? Have you ever gone through OCZ support/RMA? I have and they're great. They will advance RMA a drive to you, even cut you a discount if you want a bigger drive.
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…although I'm willing to bet that the Vertex 4 will show some random major firmware fixable issue sooner or later
Seems like your bias towards OCZ is purely emotional and carry no logical credibility whatsoever.
Do you hand over reports to your professor in college and tell him your sources are based on personal feelings and emotions?
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Cool Review. Nice to see Corsair Performance Pro and Plextor M3 Pro win Gold! I'm still iffy with Vertex 4...OCZ...ewwwww....a lot of bad history in that company...hopefully, Vertex 4 changes that for them.
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Once SSDs become $.50 I will probably gouge on them. haha
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vrait
Once SSDs become $.50 I will probably gouge on them. haha
Once SSDs become $.50 I will probably gouge on them. haha
Then you'll wait till their $0.25/GB, $0.12/GB, $0.06/GB, you'll keep waiting and waiting and never buy one.
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