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Cycles, Cells and Platters: An Empirical Analysis of Hardware Failures on a Million Consumer PCs

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We present the first large-scale analysis of hardware failure rates on a million consumer PCs. We find that many failures are neither transient nor independent. Instead, a large portion of hardware induced failures are recurrent: a machine that crashes from a fault in hardware is up to two orders of magnitude more likely to crash a second time. For example, machines with at least 30 days of accumulated CPU time over an 8 month period had a 1 in 190 chance of crashing due to a CPU subsystem fault. Further, machines that crashed once had a probability of 1 in 3.3 of crashing a second time. Our study examines failures due to faults within the CPU, DRAM and disk subsystems. Our analysis spans desktops and laptops, CPU vendor, overclocking, underclocking, generic vs. brand name, and characteristics such as machine speed and calendar age. Among our many results, we find that CPU fault rates are correlated with the number of cycles executed, underclocked machines are significantly more reliable than machines running at their rated speed, and laptops are more reliable than desktops.

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have been running my set up overclocked 24/7 since 2009 and ive only had a ram failure that corsair replaced quickly and a storage drive failure that seagate replaced quickly.

i do think its time for an upgrade though im going intel next since AMD has failed to keep up with their last generation
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Can't say that I read the source, but this sounds like a load of crud. Pretty sure what they counted as cpu subsystem is actually more related to other hardware or maybe even software faults. As many years of pc repair and use, I have not once seen a faulty cpu. They are orders of magnitude less likely to fail, outside of a catastrophic event like a psu blowing up. Laptops, hard drives especially, last longer than desktops? Give me a break...
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Can't say that I read the source, but this sounds like a load of crud. Pretty sure what they counted as cpu subsystem is actually more related to other hardware or maybe even software faults. As many years of pc repair and use, I have not once seen a faulty cpu. They are orders of magnitude less likely to fail, outside of a catastrophic event like a psu blowing up. Laptops, hard drives especially, last longer than desktops? Give me a break...

PC repair/user != engineer/researcher.

...then read the source. As with any paper, they explicitly define the scope, definition, and limitations.

They are using a dataset of about 1M machines.

The CPU failures are qualified by a machine-check exception. The CPU itself is tell the OS there is an error that occurred. A error does NOT mean the CPU is unusable. It just means an exception occurred.

"We distinguish between a failure, which is deviant behavior (e.g., a crash), and a fault, which is a defect in a component."


CPUs have a whole lot of features that you might not even be aware of:
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Edited by DuckieHo - 6/27/12 at 12:12pm
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Can't say that I read the source

Then why did you even post? Any reasoning your post potentially had is invalidated by the sheer fact you didn't even bother to read the report. They have a sample of 1 Million PCs. Your evidence is anecdotal and your credibility non-existent.
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Interesting.

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I wonder how many overclocked system failures were during the OC process or did they discount that?
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I wonder how many overclocked system failures were during the OC process or did they discount that?

Yeah, I was thinking this as well. My system crashed many, many times before I found a stable 24/7 setting. After that, no crashes that were directly hardware related.

There isn't any way to separate out fan/cooling system failures in this data, which is another major cause of crashes. (on my system, the CPU would be "responsible" for a crash if the temps rose too high)
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Yeah, I was thinking this as well. My system crashed many, many times before I found a stable 24/7 setting. After that, no crashes that were directly hardware related.
There isn't any way to separate out fan/cooling system failures in this data, which is another major cause of crashes. (on my system, the CPU would be "responsible" for a crash if the temps rose too high)

I believe another paper covered this:
"WER logs also tell us nothing about machine temperature or the relocation of components among machines, as studied by Pinheiro et al. [2007], Schroeder and Gibson [2007], and Schroeder et al. [2009]"
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I wonder how many overclocked system failures were during the OC process or did they discount that?

What exactly do you mean? Are you asking whether they distinguish between failure rate in the process of finding a stable overclock and failure rate once at that "stable" overclock?

Honestly, the methodology around 5.1.1, especially the first paragraph, went a bit over my head. The following tables are interesting though... I find it hard to believe that, according to figure 7, laptop overclocks somehow appear to be more stable than desktop overclocks, especially with the lesser cooling that most laptops have. Does the heat/power conservation of a laptop processor really make up for the compromise in cooling?

I found the paper fascinating - the tables alone tell you quite a bit. Generally, with respect to overclocking, it seems to confirm what we already know: underclocking seems to be better for the processor, whereas overclocking significantly increases your crash rate. tongue.gif
Edited by Escatore - 6/29/12 at 2:19am
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