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hey i was looking into some watercooling. I saw the Koolance exos which seemed to be a good deal but then I realized it was using 1/4" tubing! I'd really like to get some Danger Den waterblocks but those only come in sizes of 1/2" ID and 3/8" ID. Is there any solution to this deliemma or am I just going to have to build a full Danger Den system?
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hey i was looking into some watercooling. I saw the Koolance exos which seemed to be a good deal but then I realized it was using 1/4" tubing! I'd really like to get some Danger Den waterblocks but those only come in sizes of 1/2" ID and 3/8" ID. Is there any solution to this deliemma or am I just going to have to build a full Danger Den system?
There are acouple of good kit's made by Swiftech...Members here have had great luck with them..Swiftech Apex Ultra Dual 120mm Water Cooling Kit

And...Swiftech H20-120 Premium 120mm Water Cooling Kit
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hey i was looking into some watercooling. I saw the Koolance exos which seemed to be a good deal but then I realized it was using 1/4" tubing! I'd really like to get some Danger Den waterblocks but those only come in sizes of 1/2" ID and 3/8" ID. Is there any solution to this deliemma or am I just going to have to build a full Danger Den system?
First off, I'd stay away from any parts that have 1/4" fittings. The performance will be marginal...at best equal to mediocre air cooling. That being said, there are adapters available to change tubing sizes (and almost any other thing you can imagine.) For example see: http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/cat...lickid=leftnav
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For those swiftechs, which one would you recommend? These look great in terms of an easy to set-up system though but would I get better cooling peformance out of a Danger Den system with a DD-D5, TDX, Maze4 chipset and an ATI Tyee or Maze4 GPU. Also, for those huge radiators, it looks like it mounts on the back of my PC. Is that correct?
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For those swiftechs, which one would you recommend? These look great in terms of an easy to set-up system though but would I get better cooling peformance out of a Danger Den system with a DD-D5, TDX, Maze4 chipset and an ATI Tyee or Maze4 GPU. Also, for those huge radiators, it looks like it mounts on the back of my PC. Is that correct?
If you have the money I would get the Swifty Apex with the double rad..The DD kits are fine also, I just prefer the Apogee cpu water block that is in the Swifty kits.....

I wouldn't bother cooling your NB, it's not really needed and just causes un-needed restriction in your loop....

The Swiftec kit comes with a rad-box to hang the rad off the back of your case...You are able to buy the rad-box only to use with any rad you wish to...Swiftech MCB-120 Black 120mm Radbox Kit

The Maze 4 GPU is a fine WB...Swiftec also has a good one..Swiftech MCW60 Extreme Duty VGA Bare Water Block (3/8" and 1/2" barbs)..................
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The difference between Swiftech and DangerDen is hard to see. I use Swiftech.

as to the 1/4", 3/8 and 1/2" tubing I have used all 3 (in different systems).

The bigger lines move more volume of water and the 1/4 lines use less volume but more pressure.

The 1/4 is ok if its a simple 1 thing cool (CPU, Chipset or HDD) but dosent work as well when you use multiple blocks.

The 3/8, 1/2 is better if ur gonna add stuff later on as its able to support more stuff.

You DEFINATELY do not want to use adaptors to go from 1/4 to 1/2 and fittings that have a sharp bend or restriction in the middle as it will mess up the flow.

Both of the Swiftech kits are cool, the one that uses the MCP 350 or 355(more flow,noise) is 3/8 and with the res kit

http://www.svc.com/mcres-1000p.html

can be mounted in a CD slot.

The MCP 655 pump is 1/2" and I would use if you are gonna build a crazy H20 system with a dual or triple rad and multiple Blocks.
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Thanks all. With the price of my configured Danger Den kit which is around 450 dollars and the price of buying the swiftech and my waterblocks from Danger Den which is around 500, I think I just might have to go with the danger den not unless I want to sacrifice my cooling performance. At the minimum, I want to get a TDX and a Maze4 Chipset and GPU cooler but the ATI Tyee really grabs my attention because I've been looking for something to cool my Voltage regulators with since I do some heavy overclocking. Any suggestions?
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Thanks all. With the price of my configured Danger Den kit which is around 450 dollars and the price of buying the swiftech and my waterblocks from Danger Den which is around 500, I think I just might have to go with the danger den not unless I want to sacrifice my cooling performance. At the minimum, I want to get a TDX and a Maze4 Chipset and GPU cooler but the ATI Tyee really grabs my attention because I've been looking for something to cool my Voltage regulators with since I do some heavy overclocking. Any suggestions?
Make sure you get the D-5 pump when you get it...I think this fit's your board..EDIT: I just looked again and you have the Kn8 so I dont know ......Alphacool MB Heattrap RegCooler Long Abit Fatal1ty, AN8-Series Products Model: 11603 [11603] : Performance-PCs.com, ... sleeve it and they will come
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I'd stay away from those Koolance kits or any other budget kits. You might as well go with air.

DD & Swiftech on the other hand have quality kits with good components all around. Just curious, how'd you come up with a $450-500 price tag?
    
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He's right. I started with a Koolance Kit, the best case they have actually. Now don't get me wrong. The case is sexy, and I have never seen its equal (off the shelf), BUT there are certain drawbacks. For instance, motherboards are installed in them upside down, so if you have "cool-pipes" on your motherboard you'll cook your capacitors. I started with an ASUS A8N 32-SLI Deluxe. Since the coolpipes worked by convetion I cooked a FX-60 (three days after it was released), and two 7800 GTX's. Then I used some DD products in it, and still got artifacts cause of the motherboard. All I can say is stay away from them. Now I use DD, and some swiftech components, and life is good
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