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post #31 of 48
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Originally Posted by dealio View Post

yes because the whole point of this demonstration is winning at RPS
<-- see avatar.

It doesn't make it any less sad that this was the route they chose to win. Besides, if the only point to this was purely to win, then it would probably be easier to just program the robot to knock the opponent out so it would win by default. That is not the only point to exercises and experiments like this. The main point to them is to further our research and development of robotics. Apparently you think the best way to advance robotic technology is through smoke and mirrors, ie programming the robot to cheat, rather than by using advanced mathematics, signal processing, logic and superior computation to achieve a similar goal. I will admit it is a neat trick, but is still just that a trick...
 
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The article just hones in on what gets a reaction. The actual purpose is cooperation, not competition. Though honestly, in that respect this seems like a relatively simple set of signals to process. There are only 3 possible outcomes. I wonder how often it would respond incorrectly if you increased the number of possible signals or the complexity of the signal.

From the telegraph link:
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According to the Ishikawa Oku Lab, who claim to have designed the automaton as an "example of human-machine cooperation systems", the recognition of the position and shape of the human hand takes just "one milisecond".

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post #33 of 48
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chess now rock paper scissors?! Whats next?! ohno-smiley02.gif

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post #34 of 48
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..Though honestly, in that respect this seems like a relatively simple set of signals to process. There are only 3 possible outcomes...

This was kinda my point, wouldn't all the talent be better utilized for something else. Like designing a robot that can win at rock, paper, scissors, lizard, Spock for example...tongue.gif
 
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post #35 of 48
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Okay, so your not impressed with RPS, I get it. How about two robots playing baseball...




And even Mr. Miyagi would be impressed by this one...




And many more videos can be found at the labs website. Fascinating stuff.
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Definitely cheating. What's really sad is that with all their maths skill the engineers chose this method to win rather than writing some bad ass algorithm to recognize opponents' tendencies.

You can't just tell the future by using Maths...
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You can't just tell the future by using Maths...

It is however possible to create a mathematical model of an opponent's tendencies.
 
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This would be more impressive if it weren't Rock-Paper-Scissors...

Have you seen that episode of big bang theory with Woward Wolowitz and the robotic arm?...lets just say It didn't end too well for him yessir.gif
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I'd like to see them put two robots of equal design against each other.

Someone will have to teach them the game first...

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Have you seen that episode of big bang theory with Woward Wolowitz and the robotic arm?...lets just say It didn't end too well for him yessir.gif

LOL
Did you try unplugging it?
Noooooooooooo!
 
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