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fingers crossed i should be i will hold a poll come buying time about the ram... hz's or super tallent or team xtream... we shall see. in the mean time i'm laughin!!
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post #23 of 37
Well the rest of the specs you have listed ther looks GREAT

As with the E6600 I dont think you will need DDR800..What i mean is it isnt a must. However if you can clearly afford it then go for it as it will give you that extra headroom if needed.

As for cooling I would have to reccomend the Thernaltake BT or the Scyth.
post #24 of 37
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i will be watercooling... so i'll be going from stock to WC once i have it... no air other than stock... i may consider dropping down to DDR2 5400 instead if you guys think i can save some money there! that's always good like the 5400 HZ's?
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post #25 of 37
The DDR2 5400's will do you just fine with that CPU and its Multiplier. No need for DDR800 really so perhaps get the 5400's and save some money mate.
post #26 of 37
To tell you the truth I reckon wait for 1 week till the 680SLi chipset comes in with the benchies.

*braces for critisizm*
post #27 of 37
Thats a fair point. However I dont think it will be anything revolutionary. However if its only a week i would wait and see . Get the best hardware you can for the price is what i say.
post #28 of 37
I'm not quite sure this board's average member realizes what OCing ram does. They seem to think it's a FSB appeasing device rather than a performance enhancing one(of the latter, it is). I wasn't going to say anything until I've seen how pervasive it is here. Probably 4 or more times since I've started posting. You do NOT buy high speed ram so that you can push your low multi CPU higher. That is what dividers are for. You buy high speed ram for PERFORMANCE. Even an E6700 the highest locked multi CPU has a 10x multi. To reach its max (usually about 3.6Ghz or more) you'd need an FSB of about 360. At 360FSB, on the DDR 800 divider that's still well over DDR1000Mhz ram speed and a Conroe at that speed can easily utilize the memory bandwidth of PC8000 or higher.

I can put a huge, long-winded, rant here about ram speeds and performance etc, but I won't go any further unless it's demanded.

Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.
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post #29 of 37
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I'm not quite sure this board's average member realizes what OCing ram does. They seem to think it's a FSB appeasing device rather than a performance enhancing one(of the latter, it is). I wasn't going to say anything until I've seen how pervasive it is here. Probably 4 or more times since I've started posting. You do NOT buy high speed ram so that you can push your low multi CPU higher. That is what dividers are for. You buy high speed ram for PERFORMANCE. Even an E6700 the highest locked multi CPU has a 10x multi. To reach its max (usually about 3.6Ghz or more) you'd need an FSB of about 360. At 360FSB, on the DDR 800 divider that's still well over DDR1000Mhz ram speed and a Conroe at that speed can easily utilize the memory bandwidth of PC8000 or higher.

I can put a huge, long-winded, rant here about ram speeds and performance etc, but I won't go any further unless it's demanded.

Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.


Most of the members on this forum have found that the best performance arrises from the use of a 1:1 ratio of ram to FSB.... so with your example, 360 FSB : DDR2@720 also, many have found that to alow for increases in both (FSB and RAM speed) timings can be loosened with intel chips, which is not the case with AMD chips due to the onboard memory controller.
If you intend to contradict the beliefs and experience of highly reputable members of our forum, please do so with some evidence or proof, be it with links or benchmarks or the likes. (your criticism is ussually welcomed by those members, they're here to learn too, just make sure it's founded)
Cheers for now
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Edit: Also... FTR... a gramatically perfect, and rather verbose post, does not imply product knowledge here.
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I'm not quite sure this board's average member realizes what OCing ram does. They seem to think it's a FSB appeasing device rather than a performance enhancing one(of the latter, it is). I wasn't going to say anything until I've seen how pervasive it is here. Probably 4 or more times since I've started posting. You do NOT buy high speed ram so that you can push your low multi CPU higher. That is what dividers are for. You buy high speed ram for PERFORMANCE. Even an E6700 the highest locked multi CPU has a 10x multi. To reach its max (usually about 3.6Ghz or more) you'd need an FSB of about 360. At 360FSB, on the DDR 800 divider that's still well over DDR1000Mhz ram speed and a Conroe at that speed can easily utilize the memory bandwidth of PC8000 or higher.

I can put a huge, long-winded, rant here about ram speeds and performance etc, but I won't go any further unless it's demanded.

Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.
I disagree with that point. Part of performance is to have RAM that will allow yuo to push that FSB higher when you have that low multi CPU. A divider will work, but will decrease performance! And wasn't the initial thought to increase performance?

Also, in your own post, you first state that you don't buy RAM to be able to increase your FSB and then state that you need high-speed RAM so you can increase your FSB. This is contradicting. In my opinion, it does NOT matter what the multi of the CPU is. In either case, you're better off buying faster RAM so you can push that FSB higher with RAM on a favorable divider and get the best performance. Obviously, at some point price comes into play....


Having that said, I've heard that this Crucial kit has excellent overclocking capabilities (beyond DDR2 800 speeds):
Crucial Technology 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) $229.99
    
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