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Hey all.

So I've been operating my PC for a few months now, built it 11/11/11 as my first rig that I actually built.

It's working fantastic so far, and no complaints. But I do have a few questions on the hard drive in particular.

For one, my hard drive is starting to fill up and I need more space. So I need a new one.

I have no idea how RAID works, or what it even is.

I want to be able to have more storage, so looking at potentially buying a new drive, HDD not SSD. What should I do, replace my current one of 750gb to a larger capacity, or should I get a second drive? What would make both drives as fast as possible?

I just don't know anything when it comes to hard drives, so need some input here. Trying to find the cheapest way to get more HDD space while also having the drives be as fast as possible. thumb.gif
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Well, you'd need three drives if you want to go RAID, because initializing a RAID-0 array wipes everything on them... tongue.gif (The third is for backing up your data before migrating it to the array.)

Honestly... modern drives are fast enough that I'd probably just grab a large new one, format it, tack on whatever drive letter you prefer, and then be done with it. The new Seagate 2TB drives are very fast, but the warranty is short and reliability is currently unknown. Their price however is very good. WD Black 2TB's are also very fast, and the warranty is long - but the price is high compared to other 2TB drives. Hitachi 2TB drives are somewhere in the middle for all three. (Price/Performance/Warranty)

If you plan to use the drive for games/programs, format it into two partitions (of whatever sizes you figure you'll need) - use the first one for games/programs and the second one for other stuff. The edge of a hard drive is always faster than the inside, so the first partition is faster - because of that you want to sort your most active data into that partition. While it may not matter if your family photos take 20ms or 36ms to load... it certainly matters if a game texture takes that long, as that's a whole frame difference, which could cause a stutter/jolt.
     
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Well, you'd need three drives if you want to go RAID, because initializing a RAID-0 array wipes everything on them... tongue.gif (The third is for backing up your data before migrating it to the array.)
Honestly... modern drives are fast enough that I'd probably just grab a large new one, format it, tack on whatever drive letter you prefer, and then be done with it. The new Seagate 2TB drives are very fast, but the warranty is short and reliability is currently unknown. Their price however is very good. WD Black 2TB's are also very fast, and the warranty is long - but the price is high compared to other 2TB drives. Hitachi 2TB drives are somewhere in the middle for all three. (Price/Performance/Warranty)
If you plan to use the drive for games/programs, format it into two partitions (of whatever sizes you figure you'll need) - use the first one for games/programs and the second one for other stuff. The edge of a hard drive is always faster than the inside, so the first partition is faster - because of that you want to sort your most active data into that partition. While it may not matter if your family photos take 20ms or 36ms to load... it certainly matters if a game texture takes that long, as that's a whole frame difference, which could cause a stutter/jolt.

In that case, should I take my current one out to replace it with that new one? Or should I use both drives.
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In that case, should I take my current one out to replace it with that new one? Or should I use both drives.
I'd just use both. HDDs have never been great at multitasking, so if you do something like... sticking your games on your second drive (whatever drive letter that might be), then that protects them against interference when Windows or your Antivirus decides to update, and things like that. wink.gif
     
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I'd just use both. HDDs have never been great at multitasking, so if you do something like... sticking your games on your second drive (whatever drive letter that might be), then that protects them against interference when Windows or your Antivirus decides to update, and things like that. wink.gif

So just to sum it up to make sure I understand correctly:

Your suggesting I should get a 2TB drive on whatever letter and partition it into two, first half for applications second for storage, and then just keep my current drive in (750gb) for windows/Antivirus/and some more storage.

Is that correct?

Just want to make sure I heard you right! thumb.gif
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So just to sum it up to make sure I understand correctly:

Your suggesting I should get a 2TB drive on whatever letter and partition it into two, first half for applications second for storage, and then just keep my current drive in (750gb) for windows/Antivirus/and some more storage.

Is that correct?

Just want to make sure I heard you right! thumb.gif
Yep. smile.gif Although you don't necessarily have to do it in half. If you only have ~300GB of games, then... 400-500GB should be plenty - it leaves a nice buffer for buying more. Use the rest of the drive for storage.
     
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Yep. smile.gif Although you don't necessarily have to do it in half. If you only have ~300GB of games, then... 400-500GB should be plenty - it leaves a nice buffer for buying more. Use the rest of the drive for storage.

Alright. Too bad they're so expensive though mad.gif
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Yep. smile.gif Although you don't necessarily have to do it in half. If you only have ~300GB of games, then... 400-500GB should be plenty - it leaves a nice buffer for buying more. Use the rest of the drive for storage.

Alright. Too bad they're so expensive though mad.gif
Yeah, that's annoying.

I actually acquired my Steam games drive by liberating it from an external, since externals are usually cheaper. I had heard reports that Hitachi externals came with 7200RPM drives... so I bought one for $60 (this was close to 2 years ago) and liberated it from its enclosure.

Yep, 7200 RPM. thumb.gif

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How would this one be?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST2000DM001-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal/dp/B005T3GRN2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341016193&sr=8-1&keywords=seagate+bare+drive

or the same thing in the 1TB model?

What would be the cheapest but still good quality 1-2TB drives? There's just so many, even of the three brands you mentioned.
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How would this one be?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST2000DM001-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal/dp/B005T3GRN2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341016193&sr=8-1&keywords=seagate+bare+drive

or the same thing in the 1TB model?

What would be the cheapest but still good quality 1-2TB drives? There's just so many, even of the three brands you mentioned.
That's a nice fast drive. smile.gif The benchmarks/reviews for it are pretty awesome. The only thing that people don't know yet is how reliable they are. They have a 1 year warranty, so hopefully they have a good long life or a very short life (RMA!), but nothing in between.

It should be the same speed as the 1TB model shown here:

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You may have to apply a firmware update after receiving it:
http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/223651en

It fixes some issues, like randomly disappearing from the BIOS and making odd noises.

I'd probably chance it, if the price is right. Performance certainly is. Reliability is the only unknown, but reports on overclock.net are mostly positive for this drive so far. Then again, it is too early to tell - many drives take months or years to fail.
     
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Seagate 3TB 7200.14 - ST3000DM001-9YN166 WD Black 640GB - WD6401AALS WD Green 1.5TB - WD15EARS Hitachi 2TB 7200RPM - HDS723020BLA642 
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WD 2TB Green - WD20EARX WD 2TB Green - WD20EARS WD Blue 500GB - WD5000AAKS-00V6A0 WD Scorpio Black 500GB - WD5000BEKT-00KA9 
Optical DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
Pioneer DVR-115DBK Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE LG GH22NS90 Coolit Eco R120 
CoolingCoolingOSOS
Yate Loon Fans - D12SL-12-RED/BLACK Fractal Design 120mm Fan - FD-FAN-120 Windows 7 Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 2343BWX 23" (2048x1152) I-Rocks KR-6170-BK Corsair HX620 Fractal Design Define R3 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Razer Abyssus 3500DPI Mousepad + Desk Onboard Realtek® ALC 892 Cyber Acoustics CA-2992 2.0 Speakers 
OtherOtherOther
Razer Krait 1600 DPI nGear G-C1601 Card Reader Pisen Card Reader 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
VIA Eden C7 1200mhz Jetway J7F4K1G2ES-LF VIA Onboard 512MB PC2-4200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
A-Data FlashDrive None Fanless Linux 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Headless None 65w Power Brick Antec ISK300-65 
MouseAudio
None Onboard VIA 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Barton XP-M 2400+ FJQ4C Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe 256MB BFG 7800GS OC 2x512MB Samsung PC3200 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Raptor 74GB/Seagate 120GB Windows 2000 Pro 60hz 17" CRT Brandless PS2 Keyboard 
PowerMouse
Antec Neo HE 550w Logitech G5 
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