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any one have any other opinion?
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Both are great brand I'm telling you. It will be just LUCKs if you get a DOA one and etc.

Seagate 3TB in real time file transfer is actually 175mb/sec to prove that I ran SSD <-> 3TB Seagate.

On the WD side there are a lot of marketing gimmicks, dual processor and 6Gbps... like 1ms different? Real time speed is 80-125mb/sec, I've proven this because I have a WD Black Caviar <-> SSD.

Also tested with ATTO benchmarking. Not just relying on Windows speed.
     
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the seagate 3tb is faster than wd 2tb?
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Originally Posted by djriful View Post

3TB Seagate (ST3000DM001) one read and write speed are up to 175mb/sec. This is way faster than my WD Caviar Black which it can only top 125mb/sec.

Don't listen to those 6Gbps marketing. All the spinning HDD can't even saturate 3Gbps yet. 3Gbps is 250mb/ sec...

helloo.... =/


I would buy another ST3000DM001 in a heartbeat if I need more room later.
True. Those new Seagates are nice performers. thumb.gif But the Blacks still have superior seek times and NCQ, so for multitasking they are still the kings. We need to know what he intends to use it for before recommending a drive. As an OS/Apps/Games drive the WD Black will likely still be faster - but if he has an SSD for OS/Apps and the HDD is going to be dedicated to games/storage, he will probably be better off going for the Seagate.

The new 1TB-platter Seagates dominate when it comes to sequential speeds, which are great for file copies and single-tasking situations. That's why the new Seagates are great when dedicated to games. smile.gif But when you ask them to multitask (or *gasp* run an OS) it's another story entirely. They pretty much fall flat on their faces due to their slightly higher seek times and simplistic NCQ, resulting in much lower performance. Here you can see a WD Green 3TB stomping all over it, just because it's making better decisions reordering reads/writes:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5042/seagates-new-barracuda-3tb-st3000dm001-review
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Most of the drives at the tops of these graphs have sequential speeds maxing at around 120-140MB/sec rather than the ~200MB/sec of the ST3000DM001. It seems like it shouldn't be the case, but don't underestimate the importance of NCQ or seeking intelligently for a shared OS/Apps/Games drive. Dedicated to a single task at a time, the new Seagates perform much better.

So, are you planning to get an SSD any time soon? Decide on that, and then you can decide on which drive to go for.


Oh - If I remember correctly the WD Black 2TB is on par with (or slightly above) the Barracuda XT 3TB in performance.
     
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Thanks, Kramy! thumb.gif I must agree.

To OP, just give you some ideas on hard drives decisions. I don't stick to 1 drive for everything.

My setup is at follow:
SSD for OS and Apps.
3TB Seagate for Storages and Games.
2TB Seagate LP (green) for backup.
WD Caviar Black - Live Recording storage.

Edited by djriful - 6/30/12 at 6:44pm
     
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post #16 of 43
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i want to you use it as a primary for OS so i got for the WD better i guess right?

The seagate 3TB and 2TB Black have the same price so that what makes it hard to decide smile.gif
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My bad - the WD 2TB Black beats the 2TB Barracuda XT rather than the 3TB. (I just looked up some old reviews.)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd6000hlhx-velociraptor-600gb,2600-7.html

It should still beat the 3TB ST3000DM001 as an OS/Apps/Games drive, but not the 3TB Barracuda XT.

Hey, which of these do you care about the most?

FileCopy speeds - Seagate is higher.
Warranty - WD Black is 4 years longer.
Capacity - +50% space on the Seagate.
Edited by Kramy - 7/1/12 at 4:38am
     
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Do WD drives have 1TB-platters ? like the 1002FAEX ?

Edit: 1002FAEX has 500GB platters... seems like there is no 1TB-Platter WD drive. thinking.gif
Edited by adridu59 - 7/1/12 at 4:58am
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in this situation ill go for the seagate

Hey, which of these do you care about the most?

FileCopy speeds - Seagate is higher.
Warranty - WD Black is 4 years longer.
Capacity - +50% space on the Seagate.

because i need the speed and capacity

im thinking about crucial m4 128gb with the seagate
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I used to recommend the seagates until all 4 of the drives I was using failed/physically broke

My HP G60-230US I purchased new from newegg had a Seagate 5400.5 fail after 15 months

I had 3 x Seagate 7200.10 when they were the fastest drives on the market (2 in raid 0 was at the top of the benchmark thread in 2007). BUT I had 2 of them fail and the third quit working when I unplugged a sata controller cable and the retention clip (the black around the pins) broke off.

Also a friend of mine had a seagate 320 gig in a Dell fail after a little over a year.

So 5 hard drives failed in a little over a year (seagate)


So I'd rather have a slower WD than a seagate.

I have 3 samsung f3's for over 2 years, probably 3 years and they have been fine and are the fastest drives I own
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 3570K 4.5 ghz @ 1.32v Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD4H MSI 7950 Twin Frozr 1100/1500 @ 1.188 G.Skill SNiper Gaming Series 16 gb (2x8gb) 1866mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 250 Samsung F3 1TB x 2 WD 640 AAKS x 2 LIte-On 20X DVDRW 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Windows 7 Pro x64 HP w237ld 23" 1080P OCZ ModXStream 600 watt 
CaseMouse
Cooler Master HAF 912 Logitech G400 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 SLACR - 3.2 ghz @ 1.375vv Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi ATI HD 5870 G.Skill PQ 2x2 800 mhz 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
G.Skill PK 2x1 800 mhz WD 1 TB AAKX LITE-ON 20X DVD±R 12X DVDRAM Tuniq Tower 120 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 x64 Professional Vizio 37" HDTV LiteOn SK-9020 Thermaltake TR2 T-500 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Apex ATX Full Tower Logitech M100 generic ADI AD1988B 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
T4200 2ghz Wistron 3612 Intel GMA X4500HD 2+1 gig 800 mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 500 gig BEVT 24x DVDRW Litescribe Win 7 x64 professional 16" 
CaseMouse
HP G60-230US Microsoft Wireless 3000 
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